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hath had much familiaritie and conversation with her dutch company, and
bin privie to much of their discourse, and saith that in an evening about the
beginning of September last, this deponent being in the longe boate of the
said shipp going aboard from another shipp lying there by in company of
the Stiersman, and two or three others of the company of the
Crosse of Jerusalem, heard them murmurr and complaine that the Skipper
of the said shipp the Crosse of Jerusalem did not pay them their wages,
and in such complainte the Skeeman said, (speaking to the Stiersman) to
this effect, If the Skipper will doe mee right (speaking of paying
him his wages) I will not betray him, but otherwise - and there the
Stiersman interrupted him and said, Peace, the man (speaking
of this deponent) understandeth, and soe hee proceeded noe further. And
this deponent in the time of such his waiting aboard the said shipp
hath often heard severall of her company enveigh and raile against
their Gunner, calling him (in their language) rogue, dogge and
many other reprochfull termes, and threaten that
if ever hee came into holland hee should be hanged; and this deponent
perceived and understood by their discourse that such their displeasure
and threats proceeded from them because the said Gunner had made
some discovery and deposition touching the said shipp and lading
tending to the advantage of this Commonwealth. And otherwise hee
cannot depose.

Upon the rest not examined by direction.

To the Interrogatories. [CENTRE HEADING]

To the first and second hee saith hee doth not knowe William Belyn
arlate and otherwise hee cannot answer.

To the third hee saith hee can speake and understand English and dutch
and can write and reade, and otherwise hee cannot answer.

To the fourth hee cannot answer.

The last concerneth him not.

Repeated before doctor Godolphin.

Will Tufnall [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]

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The same day. [CENTRE HEADING]

Examined upon the foresaid allegation.

3.

John Ward of Shadwell in the County of Middlesex
Watch maker aged 32 yeeres or thereabouts sworne and
examined.

To the 17th and eighteenth articles hee saith and deposeth that from the
tenth of August last past hee this deponent hath bin a Prize office
waiter aboard the shipp the Crosse of Jerusalem arlate lying in the
River of Thames, and saith that often conversing and speaking with
the Stiersman, [?Skimman] and others of that Company of the said shipp
hee hath in that time often heard them speake against and threaten the
Gunner of the same shipp, because hee had declared something against
the