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To the third Interrogatorie hee saith hee … To the third Interrogatorie hee saith hee saw some of the bales of goods of<br />
Phillip van hulten aforesaid in his house before they were laded, and saw<br />
some of them taken thence and put into a boate to be carried aboard the<br />
said shipp, and this deponent alsoe laded his owne goods aforementioned out<br />
of this deponents owne house and the said fatt it appear [?XXX] of the<br />
said Abraham holdewiger this deponent saw in the said Abrahams<br />
house before the said lading thereof, all their said houses being as hee saith<br />
in Amsterdam. And saith hee hath alsoe seene others of the goods that<br />
were laded, in the house of the laders before the lading thereof, but the<br />
names of such persons or the kindes of goods hee cannot specifie<br />
as hee saith, nor can hee specifie the other goods laded as hee saith, (more<br />
than that they are as hee saith all free goods) nor the valews thereof,<br />
And saith the house of the said Philip van hulten is on th ekey [?sars]<br />
gracht, and this deponents house is alsoe there, and the house of Abraam<br />
holdewiger on the Prim[?us] gracht in Amsterdam. And further saving as<br />
aforesaid hee cannot answer to this Interrogatorie.
To the fourth hee saith that hee this deponent hath had and hath correspondence<br />
with one Elias Lenorsen van keulen living at Cadiz, but being an<br />
Amsterdammer borne and subiect of the said States of the United Netherlands,<br />
and not with any Spaniard, nor Spanish subiect, nor hath hee received<br />
any goods from his said correspondence but only what were retournes of goods<br />
thither [?XXX] for this deponents owne account, nor hath this deponent<br />
sold or disposed of any goods at Amsterdam or els where for his said correspondent<br />
or for any person living in those parts. And saith that hee cannot<br />
make any further answer to this Interrogatorie, saving that<br />
hee never heard that any Spaniard sent any goods into<br />
holland to be in holland or elswhere disposed for Spaniards account, but<br />
hath frequently heard hollanders say that they have soe much and soe much<br />
money owing to them in Spaine, and therefore say they expected money from<br />
thence from their dutch correspondents being for goods that they had sent thither, and hee saith hee never<br />
heard that any hollanders corresponded with any Spaniard.
To the fifth hee saith hee beleeveth not that there is soe much as a<br />
penny worth of goods in the ''Marcus Aurelius'' that is the retourne of<br />
any Spaniards goods, or that is the produce or effect of goods of any<br />
Spaniard or Spanish subiect, sent from Cadiz or any of the<br />
dominions of the king of Spaine. And further cannot as hee saith answer.
To the sixth hee saith hee alsoe beleeveth that not any part<br />
whatsoever of the said lading was or is for account of any Spanish subiect<br />
or of any dweller (being a Spanish subiect) in Spanish territories, or for any that is in partnership for Spaniards or<br />
Spanish subiects. And further cannot answer as hee saith.
To the seaventh hee saith hee knoweth well that the said shipp hath not<br />
bin bought for nor is upon any Spanish designe to be a ship of warr or in<br />
trade for any Spanish subiects or Spaniards within the Spanish dominions<br />
or territories, nor any part thereof, and this hee answereth (as hee doth<br />
the rest) by vertue of his oath. And further cannot answer.
To the eighth hee saith hee was not present nor saw the buying of any of<br />
the goods, but only of his owne aforementioned, which goods of his owne hee<br />
saith hee bought some at Amsterdam and the rest at harlam about a<br />
moneth rest at harlam about a<br />
moneth +
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