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reputed to belonge to Amsterdam, which hee … reputed to belonge to Amsterdam, which hee knoweth to be true because he this<br />
deponent for all the said time (ended in September 1652) lived and was a<br />
Sailemaker in Amsterdam, and till within theise two yeares last past<br />
journey worke at that trade with and under Mathew ffransen living there, who<br />
was then one of the owners of the said shipp the ''Salvador'', and to him the said<br />
Christian Cloppenburgh and company from time to time used to repaire to supplie<br />
the said shipp with sailes, and to mend them when and as often as neede<br />
required. And saith that about two yeares since the said shipp the ''Salvador'' began<br />
her out ward voyage from Amsterdam being the last voyage and time she went thence<br />
and carried a good cargazon of goods thence to a goods valew, all which hee knoweth<br />
to be true because hee was then there and tooke notice of the premisses, and as<br />
hee heard the said shipp carried and dischardged the said outwards lading at Cadiz<br />
the place where (as it is said) shee tooke in her homewards lading of silver and other<br />
goods, which were seized in her. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the fifth and sixth articles of the said allegation hee saith and deposeth that the<br />
said Christian Cloppenburgh while the warrs lasted betwixt Spaine and holland<br />
was accustomed for his outwards voyages from Amsterdam to hire men there for<br />
Spaine and the Streights and parts thereabouts, and when the said men there<br />
made question to what place they should come back and where end their voyages, hee would<br />
still answer at hamburgh, and when they have made difficultie to be<br />
hired in retourne thither, saying it would be greate chardged to them to retourne thence<br />
home, hee the said Christian Cloppenburgh would frequently tell them that hee<br />
would hire a boate to send them home to Amsterdam without any chardges to them and yet from time<br />
to time hee hath made his retourne with his said shipp with silver and other goods<br />
to Amsterdam from Spaine, and this deponent being severall times in Spaine<br />
at Cadiz within theise nine yeares sawe and tooke notice that after the<br />
said Christian Cloppenburgh his arivall there wuth the said shipp and<br />
dischardge of his goods from Amsterdam, hee hath used to take freight for<br />
other ports in Spaine and the Streights, till such time as the Spanish<br />
plate fleete retourned from the West Indies, and then to take in silver and<br />
other foods for Amsterdam; and as before from Amsterdam, soe from Cadiz<br />
to hire men for hamborough and to make and give out to the Spaniards that hee<br />
was bound for hamburgh to the end to conceale his being bound for Amsterdam<br />
from any saving such as would lade silver and goods aboard him for Amsterdam<br />
by which artifice hee got greate freights and imployment,<br />
when in truth hee belonged to Amsterdam whither hee went and ended his<br />
voyages. And otherwise hee cannot depose, saving the men at<br />
length that were soe hired having found out the fraude, and came to take<br />
notice that they were to goe to Amsterdam when as they were hired for hamburgh,<br />
would frequently say amongest themselves, [?Ja ?Ja], wee knowe what hamborough<br />
men are hired for, it is greate hamburgh, which (as they said) was Amsterdam or to<br />
the same effect, which hee knoweth having frrquent conversation with them.
To the 12 and 13 articles hee saith and deposeth that hee well knoweth the shipp<br />
arlate having the Golden Sun upon her sterne (whereof Peter Tam is master)<br />
amd heard that the voyage in question she came in Companie of the ''Sampson''<br />
''Salvador'' and ''Saint George'' arlate from Cadiz, within some short space before<br />
or after them, and soe that shee mett or was in theire Companie att sea<br />
after their said departure the said voyage from Cadiz, and came in theire<br />
Companie into the English Channell. and that the said shipp havinge the<br />
golden Sunn uppon her sterne escapinge and not beinge mett withall,<br />
arrived in Ostend in or about the moneth of October 1652. att which<br />
tyme this deponent was there, and sawe her said arrivall, and especially<br />
her said Master And after such her arrivall shee unladed<br />
her silver, and delivered the same to one dwellinge there in the [?kay]<br />
streete, this deponent beinge presen, and seeinge and takeinge notice<br />
ofseeinge and takeinge notice<br />
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