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'''XX'''
The 21th of October 1653.
[?Chr … '''XX'''
The 21th of October 1653.
[?Christan] and company against the}<br />
''greate Christofer'', aforesaid.}
Examined upon the foresaid allegation given in the first place<br />
and upon another allegation given in the second place<br />
on the behalfe of [?Estrid] [?Christan] and company.
'''5'''
'''Thomas Brothers''' of Deale in Kent Sailer, aged 27 yeares or<br />
thereabouts sworne and examined.
To the third article of the allegacion given in the first place hee saith and deposeth<br />
that about five weekes since the said shipp the ''greate Christofer'' under the conduct<br />
of his precontest Mrt Monnet, Captaine Swaines lieutenant came into Alborough<br />
bay in her course for London, in which bay the Parliaments fleete was then [?remayninge]<br />
and after such her comming thither Generall Munck put three of his men<br />
(Whereof this deponent was one) aboard to help to bringe her up for this<br />
port, and that presently<br />
the stiersman would have had this deponent and his two partners and the said<br />
Lieutenant to have laine in the Cookeroome and to have left the great<br />
cabbin to them, which this deponent and partners refusing and endeavouring<br />
to get the key of the cabbin, one of the said merchants strooke this deponent<br />
and called him Sacraments-steert, a terme of greate contempt, And<br />
the same night comming neere [?XXXXX] this deponent and company endeavouring to see what papers<br />
they tooke and concealed, one of the said merchants in oppositione drewe<br />
his knife and the steersman gave them upbrading language, tending to<br />
raise a mutinie, And the rest of the dutch stood readie to<br />
abet and further the said mutinie. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the first second third and 4tha rticles of the second allegacion hee saith and deposeth<br />
that after such his comminge aboard hee heard some of the said dutch company<br />
of the said vessell say sometimes that they were bound for<br />
ffrance and other times for Ostend and that they had mett with de Witt<br />
the hollands Admirall, and had his passe, and the Cooke said and<br />
confessed that they had heaved their cockets over board and were bound for<br />
Amsterdam, And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the fifth hee cannot depose.
To the crosse Interrogatories.
To the first hee saith hee can speake and understand dutch and Italian<br />
indifferently well and that English is his mother tongue, and otherwise<br />
negatively for his part.
To the second hee knoweth not as hee saith of any goods or clothes taken out<br />
of the said shipp.
To the third hee saith that comming into Alborough bay as aforesaid, one of<br />
teh said dutch merchants came aboard Generall Munck and complained unto<br />
him against Lieutenanjt Monnet and companie as having [?XXXX] him and the<br />
company of the ''Christofer'', and desired him to take Lieutenant Monets men<br />
out and put some of his men aboard to ringe her up, unlesse<br />
hee pleased to cleare her, for which hee made sute to the Generall alleadging<br />
that shee was a free shipp, but the Generall refused to cleare her and yet<br />
at his request tooke three of Mr Monets men out and put three<br />
of his owne men into her to help to bring her up, and otherwise negatively<br />
saving that when the said dutch resisted and would have kept them out of the<br />
cabbin the English [?drabbed] them a little to bringe them o better behaviour.
To the fourth hee saith that after and upon the said [?resistance] in Lea roade, the said<br />
Magaet turned the said two merchants ashore at Quinborough, having<br />
first taken their papers from them and [?XXX] them [?up ?to] their [?presence] And otherwise hee cannot depose.
Tho Brotheares [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
Repeated before doctor Godolphin and Mr Cock.eated before doctor Godolphin and Mr Cock. +
, '''XX'''
The 21th of October 1653.
[?Chr … '''XX'''
The 21th of October 1653.
[?Christan] and company against the}<br />
''greate Christofer'', aforesaid.}
Examined upon the foresaid allegation given in the first place<br />
and upon another allegation given in the second place<br />
on the behalfe of [?Estrid] [?Christan] and company.
'''5'''
'''Thomas Brothers''' of Deale in Kent Sailer, aged 27 yeares or<br />
thereabouts sworne and examined.
To the third article of the allegacion given in the first place hee saith and deposeth<br />
that about five weekes since the said shipp the ''greate Christofer'' under the conduct<br />
of his precontest Mrt Monnet, Captaine Swaines lieutenant came into Alborough<br />
bay in her course for London, in which bay the Parliaments fleete was then [?remayninge]<br />
and after such her comming thither Generall Munck put three of his men<br />
(Whereof this deponent was one) aboard to help to bringe her up for this<br />
port, and that presently<br />
the stiersman would have had this deponent and his two partners and the said<br />
Lieutenant to have laine in the Cookeroome and to have left the great<br />
cabbin to them, which this deponent and partners refusing and endeavouring<br />
to get the key of the cabbin, one of the said merchants strooke this deponent<br />
and called him Sacraments-steert, a terme of greate contempt, And<br />
the same night comming neere [?XXXXX] this deponent and company endeavouring to see what papers<br />
they tooke and concealed, one of the said merchants in oppositione drewe<br />
his knife and the steersman gave them upbrading language, tending to<br />
raise a mutinie, And the rest of the dutch stood readie to<br />
abet and further the said mutinie. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the first second third and 4tha rticles of the second allegacion hee saith and deposeth<br />
that after such his comminge aboard hee heard some of the said dutch company<br />
of the said vessell say sometimes that they were bound for<br />
ffrance and other times for Ostend and that they had mett with de Witt<br />
the hollands Admirall, and had his passe, and the Cooke said and<br />
confessed that they had heaved their cockets over board and were bound for<br />
Amsterdam, And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the fifth hee cannot depose.
To the crosse Interrogatories.
To the first hee saith hee can speake and understand dutch and Italian<br />
indifferently well and that English is his mother tongue, and otherwise<br />
negatively for his part.
To the second hee knoweth not as hee saith of any goods or clothes taken out<br />
of the said shipp.
To the third hee saith that comming into Alborough bay as aforesaid, one of<br />
teh said dutch merchants came aboard Generall Munck and complained unto<br />
him against Lieutenanjt Monnet and companie as having [?XXXX] him and the<br />
company of the ''Christofer'', and desired him to take Lieutenant Monets men<br />
out and put some of his men aboard to ringe her up, unlesse<br />
hee pleased to cleare her, for which hee made sute to the Generall alleadging<br />
that shee was a free shipp, but the Generall refused to cleare her and yet<br />
at his request tooke three of Mr Monets men out and put three<br />
of his owne men into her to help to bring her up, and otherwise negatively<br />
saving that when the said dutch resisted and would have kept them out of the<br />
cabbin the English [?drabbed] them a little to bringe them o better behaviour.
To the fourth hee saith that after and upon the said [?resistance] in Lea roade, the said<br />
Magaet turned the said two merchants ashore at Quinborough, having<br />
first taken their papers from them and [?XXX] them [?up ?to] their [?presence] And otherwise hee cannot depose.
Tho Brotheares [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
Repeated before doctor Godolphin and Mr Cock.eated before doctor Godolphin and Mr Cock. +
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