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To the 9th, 10 11th and 12th negatively.
… To the 9th, 10 11th and 12th negatively.
To the 13th and 14 hee saith that hee this deponent is a hamburger borne and there<br />
dwelling, [?XXXX] [?hamburgh liveth in it] and otherwise negatively.
To the 15 and 16 negatively.
To the 17 hee cannot depose.
To the 18th hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition, and cannot<br />
otherwise depose.
To the 19th hee saith the said silver was laden aboard the said shipp in the<br />
said roade under the commannd of the fortresse of cadiz, and saith<br />
the said barkero left the said dispaccio or license, which was brought in the<br />
said shipp and was aboard her at the time of teh said seizure, And<br />
otherwise hee cannot depose saving as aforesaid.
To the 20th and 21th hee saith it is prohibited and unlawfull to export<br />
money or plate from Spaine without license or entrie, and in case of lading<br />
it without license, if it happens to be taken by the kings officers it is confiscate<br />
And otherwise hee cannot depose.
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The 8th of 8ber 1653.
The claime of John Stephen Spinola marchant}<br />
of Antwerp for his moneys and plate in the}<br />
''Morning Starr''. Michael van lubkin master.}
Examined upon the allegation on the behalfe<br />
of the said Spinola.
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'''Lucas Wrede''' of hamborough mariner Stiersman<br />
of the said shipp the ''Morning Starr'' aged 52 yeares<br />
or thereabouts sworne and examined.
To the first and second articles hee saith that the producent John Stephen<br />
Spinola was and is commonly accompted a subiect of the Kinge of Spaine<br />
and a merchant of fflanders, driving a greate trade for silver betwixt<br />
that countrey and Spaine. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the third fourth fifth 6. and 7 articles hee saith and deposeth<br />
that in the moneth of January last past or thereabouts in the bay of Cadiz<br />
there were laden and put aboard the shipp the ''Morning Starr'' aforesaid<br />
in the name and as for the accompt of the said John Stephen Spinola two
'''SS''' [MARKE, LH MARGIN]
barrs of silver marked as in the margin, to be thence carried in the said<br />
shipp to dunquirke or Ostend and there to be delivered to the use of the<br />
said Spinola who was and is commonly accompted the true and lawfull<br />
owner thereof, which hee knoweth being one of the said shipps company<br />
as aforesaid and seeing the lading thereof. And saith that after the said<br />
lading the said shipp departed for Ostend or dunquirke and was in her<br />
course surprized by some of the Parliaments shipps, and that at the<br />
time of the said seizure the two barrs were aboard, and came to<br />
the possession of the Captaines that made the said seizure, which hee<br />
knoweth being then aboard her and seeing the same soe donne. And<br />
further that teh said Michael Van Lubkin upon the said lading signed<br />
three bills of lading all of one tenor for the same aboard the said shipp in<br />
this deponents sight and presense, and brought one of them alonge<br />
with him in the said shipp, and had the same in her at the time<br />
of the said seizure, And otherwise referring himselfe to the said<br />
bill which hee saith hee hath seene in the Registrie of this Court, hee<br />
cannot depose. saving the said shipp and lading, upon the said seizure<br />
were brought into the River of Thames.
To the 8th hee saith hee beleeveth that in case the said seizure had not<br />
happened the said shipp had arrived in safetie at dunquirke or Ostend<br />
and there delivered the said silver, according to the said bill for thither hee saith shee<br />
was designed and sailing by her said master and company And<br />
otherwise hee cannot depose.
To the 9th hee cannot depose.
Todepose.
To the 9th hee cannot depose.
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