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then and there present besides this deponent and the sayd Trumpeter his
precontests Abraham Johnson and William Astell togeather with one Mr
Simonds of the Prize Office and the saile maker of the Salvador and saith
hee this deponent was not in the voyage in question and otherwise saving
as aforesayd hee cannot depose./

To the 40th hee saith that if hee were Judge of the busines and that if it
were in his power hee would condemne the shipps the Sampson, the Salvador
and the Saint GGeorge in question and the silver and goods in them for prize to this
State for that hee verily beleeveth them to bee good prize, and as good
prize as any that in a longe space came or were brought into England/

To the 43th hee saith that hee is a haberdasher by trade and useth to
waite aboard shipps for the prize office and is constantly taxed and payeth
towards the Armye and Navie as a parishioner and housekeeper where
hee dwelleth./

Repeated before doctors Clerke and Godolphin.

Willliam Pembridge [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]

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The first of November 1653. [CENTRE HEADING]

Examined upon the allegation on the behalfe of the State given
in theis cause the seaventh of October last past.

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Roger Kilvert of London Marchant, aged 67 yeares or
thereabouts sworne and examined saith and deposeth
as followeth, videlicet.

To the first article of the said allegation hee saith and deposeth that the exportation
of plate and bullion from any parts or places in the kingdome of Spaine
is absolutely forbidden by the lawes of that countrey, and noe man
may lade and expect any without speciall license for the same, and
whatsoever parcells shall be found laden without without license and seized in Spaine shall be
liable to confiscation: which hee knoweth having as a merchant lived 20 yeares
in that countrye ended about 27 yeares since, and having ever since traded thither
and being by that meanes well acquainted with the customes and lawes of that
countrey in the matter of lading of silver and plate, And saith that
hee this deponent hath knowne when many parcells of silver have
bin seized and apprehended in the parts and ports of Spaine within theise
fourtie yeares last past, and that such parcells have bin condemned for
confiscate, but doth not knowe that any person did suffer death for the crime
of exporting his owne money. And further cannot depose.

To the second and third articles hee saith and deposeth that for the discovery
of those which export plate without license the Judges in Spaine search
merchants bookes and writings and closets and doe alsoe search many shipps
that are ready to set saile to finde out the bills of lading or the Pursers
bookes, which may discover the offenders in this kinde, and for prevention
in theise cases, many merchants put into the bills of lading the laders by
feigned and unknowne names, and many make bills of lading with blanck
as to the name of the laders; but the contents of the plate laden, and the
parties to whom consigned is usually plainly expressed, And this
he knoweth for the reasons aforesaid, And further hee cannot depose.

To the fourth hee saith that hee this deponent cannot particularly expresse
any parcells of plate to be laden and exported from Spaine for the
accompt