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twenty four baggs of money have bene delivered att Oostend in case. the
sayd shipp Salvador had safely arrived there, which this deponent [?the ?lpp ? Shipp]
had done if by by the seizure aforesayd she had not bene prevented. And further
he cannot depose.

To the Crosse Interrogatories [CENTRE HEADING]

To the first he saith and deposeth negatively.

To the second he saith that he hath knowne the Interrate Lorenzo de Veles for the
three yeares now past. but Pedro Hameakert he knoweth not. And saith that he
saw the sayd Lorenzo att Cadize and aboard the Salvador att the tyme interrate
but John Baptista Steyne he saith he knoweth not it being onely
a borrowed name under which the sayd Lorenzo de Veles laded the sayd sylver [?interrate]
And otherwise he cannot depose.

To the third he saith that saving his answer to the second Interrate he cannot depose.

To the fourth, saving his fomer depositions, he cannot depose.

To the fifth he saith that Lorenzo de Véles laded the sayd money himselfe and
the saime was received aboard in the day tyme by Christian Cloppenbergh
Master or Captaine of the shipp Salvador And furher he cannot depose

To the sixth he saith that the sayd Cloppenbergh signed the bills of lading interrate
in the sight of this deponent aboard the sayd shipp in the bay of Cadize, but
the particular tyme he remembreth not saving that it was after the tyme
of lading and before the departure of the sayd shipp from Cadize. And
otherwise he cannot depose.

To the seventh he cannot depose.

To the eight he cannot depose. saving that the sayd money was laden
aboard by the sayd Lorenzo de Véles and by noe other party whatsoever.

To the nynth he cannot depose.

To the tenth he saith that the sayd moneyes doe really belong to the sayd
Lorenzo develes and the sayd Pedro and Andrea Hannekaert, and
not to any subiect of the States Generall or King of ffrance interrate
And the sayd shipp was really bound for Oostend and was there to make
her full discharge. And otherwise he cannot depose.

To the eleventh he saith that he this Rendent heard the sayd Lorenzo develes
in the presence of the Master of the Salvador say and declare that he laded
the sayd moneyes for the Accompts aforesayd that is [?toe] only baggs thereof for
his owne Accompt and four for the Accompt of Pedro and Andrea Hannekaert
And otherwise he cannot depose.

To the twelfth he saith that the sayd Lorenzo himselfe loaded the sayd moneys
aboard, And further he cannot depose.

To the thirteeneth he saith that the sayd Lorenzo , who laded the sayd twenty baggs for his
owne Accompt bought the sayd money att Cadiz. And saith that the sayd
Lorenzo de Veles bought likewise att Cadiz the other four baggs of peices of eight
Peru money, with mexico money which he bought with him for the
Accommpt of the sayd Pedro and Andrea Hannekaert from the Indyes
as he likewise did his owne Peru money aforesayd with Mexico money
brought him from the Indies att the same tyme. this deponent beinge
present att the buying thereof att Cadiz aforesayd And otherwise he cannot depose.

To the fourteenth he saith that the sayd Lorenzo de Veles did say and declare
in the presence and hearing of this deponent that he laded the sayd money
videlicet twenty baggs thereof for his owne Account and att his owne perill
and four [?other] of the sayd baggs for the Accompt and att the perill of the sayd
Pedro and Andrea Hannekaerts. And otherwise he cannot depose.

To the



Lorenzo de Veles
John Baptista Steyne
Christian Cloppenbergh
Pedro Hannekaert

Andrea Hannekaert