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Letter from Sir Thomas Palmer to Sir James Oxinden of Deane

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NOBLE SIR,

I doe remember that not long since you did tell me that your brother Mr. Richard Oxinden[1] was desirous to be Lietenant of my troop of horse; so it happens that I am at this time destitute of a Lieutenant: if therefore your Brother be still of the same mynd I shall thinke my selfe much honnoured by it. Wherefore I shall desire you to lett him know so much and to lett me understand his answere as soone as conveniently may be

Thus I rest
Your assured loving
Frend to serve you
THOMAS PALMER

Wingham this 16:th
of Feb. 1627



Notes


Sir Thomas Palmer, living in 1627 (b. ca. 1600, d. 1656)


Sir Thomas Palmer was the grandson of Sir Thomas Palmer (1540-1626), who was the third son of Sir Henry Palmer of Wingham, Kent. He was married to Elizabeth Shirley, daughter of Sir John Shirley of Isfield, Sussex, who is referred to in other letters published in D.K. Gardiner (1933) as "Lady Palmer" (for example, Letter from Henry Oxinden of Deane to Henry Oxinden of Barham, April 1639, MS. 27,999, f. 308).

The Palmer family's residence in Wingham dates to the purchase by Sir Henry Palmer of the grant of the college of Wingham, following the dissolution of ecclesiastical property, which Sir Henry and later Palmers made their seat. D.K. Gardiner states in her notes to the above letter that "the house stood immediately to the east of the church, behind a tall old red brick wall which still borders the highway. Within living memory it was described by old people in the village, who could recall its demolition, as the Mansion, or Wingham Mansion."

Hasted records that Sir Thomas Palmer's grandfather was well known for his hospitality at his mansion, a custom which, from the correspondence of Sir James Oxinden and his son Henry Oxinden of Deane, appears to have continued to the grandson's residence at the mansion in Wingham.



Sir Thomas Palmer (d. 1626)


Sir Thomas Palmer (d. 1626) had been knighted on the expedition to Cadiz in XXXX and made baronet in 1621. His three sons were Sir Thomas (b. ca. 1575, d. 1608), Sir Roger, and Sir James Palmer (b. 1584, d. 1657). The second son, Sir Roger Palmer, was master of the household to Charles I. According to Hasted, his eldest son predeceased his father, and the mansion at Wingham was inherited by his grandson, also Sir Thomas Palmer, who appears to be the Sir Thomas Palmer writing to Sir James Oxinden in February 1627.

Sir Thomas Palmer (d. 1626) published ‘An Essay of the Meanes how to make our Travailes into forraine Countries the more profitable and honourable,' (London, 1606), which would be interesting to examine in the context of Sir George Oxenden's later travels

Sources for notes

- Hasted, Edward, 'Parishes: Wingham', The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent: Volume 9 (1800), pp. 224-241
Wikipedia article - Thomas Palmer, high sheriff)
"Palmer, Thomas (1540-1626)". Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1885–1900



Possible new sources


TNA

C 114/55 UNKNOWN CAUSE: Thomas Palmer of Mincing Lane, London (brother of Sir Henry Palmer of Wingham, Kent): letters, books and account books relating to trade with the Levant 1657-1714
- Note C 114 = Chancery: Unknown Masters' Exhibits

Parliamentary Archives

"2 December 1644 -- Affidavit of Edward Goodwin, that Robert May, one of the Commissioners of Excise in Dover, in the great chamber of the George, in the presence of Sir Henry Heyman, Sir Thos Palmer, and other gentlemen, told Captain Temple that there was knavery enough in the Custom House" (Parliamentary Archies, Main Papers HL/PO/JO/10/1/176 7 Nov 1644 - 4 Dec 1644)

Canterbury Cathedral Archives

"PLAINTIFF: Thos PALMER Kt; DEFENDANT: - PARKER, Mgt OXENDEN als NEVINSON, Nich NEVINSON; DOCUMENT: All; CASE: T" (CCA, Archdeaconry Court Miscellaneous DCb/PRC/18/8/13 23 May 1614)

"Plaintiff: Sir Thos PALMER prop rect Wingham; Defendant: Sir Jas OXINDEN Wingham; Documents: Arts; Case: T" (CCA, Ecclesiastical cause papers DCb/J/J/24/47 20 Oct 1619)

"Plaintiff: Sir Thos PALMER Bt prop rect Wingham; Defendant: Wm BROWNING Wingham; Documents: Arts; Case: T" (CCA, Ecclesiastical cause papers DCb/J/J/66/44 27 Jun 1639/2)

Centre for Kentish Studies

"(i) Henry Oxenden of Adisham, (ii) Sir Humphrey Gylbert and Laurence Radford gent., (iii) Thomas Palmer of Wingham. Manors, etc., of Swingfield, Otterden and Little Buckland in Swingfield, Wootton, Alkham, Otterden and Buckland" (CKS, Conveyance (Bargain and Sale) U1107/T105 17 May 1574)


"Victuallers Authorized and Disallowed by the court. 1 Thomas Cooke of Wingham, innholder, authorized by Thomas Palmer and Thomas Peyton, esquires, to keep victualling [and sell] bread, ale and beer in his dwelling house by recognizance certified at this session" (CKS, Session at Canterbury, 11th January, 1602/3 Q/SR/3/m.14d 1602/3)

"General session of the peace at Canterbury Castle on Tuesday after Epiphany, 13th January, 1600/1, before Thomas Wilsford, Henry Palmer, Michael Sones and William Lovelace, knights, and Peter Manwood, John Boys, Mathew Hadd, Thomas Palmer, Henry Fynch, Richard Hardres, Thomas Peyton, Richard Sondes, George Waller, Robert Edolphe, Edward Boys, Thomas Engeham, Samuel Boys, Norton Knatchbull, William Hamon, Anthony Aucher, John Johnson, Henry Paremore and John Blechenden, esquires, and others" (CKS, Session at Canterbury, 13th January, 1600/1 Q/SR/2/m.1 1600/1)

Centre for Buckinghamshire Studies

"Includes: marriage settlement of Sir Henry Palmer and Elizabeth Marsham, 1700, and other Palmer settlements referring also to estates in Kent: grant to Sir Thos. Palmer of custody and marriage of Thos. Palmer, 1609. Label indicates that property was conveyed to Thos. and Rd. Grenville in 1744" (CBS, Stowe Estate, TITLE DEEDS, Ashendon [no ref. or date] [no ref. or date] The manors of Great and Little Pollicotts D 104/3 1609-1737)

Somerset Archive and Record Service

"Release in trust by Dudley Wild of Canterbury to Sir Thomas Palmer of Wyngham and Sir William Mann of Canterbury of all his property in Kent, Surrey and Sussex 1653 with conveyance of a messuage and lands called Waterham and 3 acres adjoining Tillmans Barn in Hearnes Hill by Palmer and Mann to Elizabeth Wild 1654, 6 month lease by Elizabeth to Jarvas Dad of Herne 1673 and lease for 9 years by Jarves Dadd of Whitestaple to Thomas Brown of Seasalter 1725" (SARS, Crowcombe Court Manuscripts, BOX 33 [no ref. or date], KENT [no ref. or date], [no title] DD/TB/33/4/1-4 1653-1725)



Images from D.K. Gardiner (1933:34-35)


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LETTER STP SJO 16021627 DEGardiner 1933 P35.PNG


  1. Father of Henry Oxinden of Barham and Richard Oxinden, cousins of Sir George Oxenden