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the time) All which hee knoweth for the reasons aforesaid; And
further hee cannot depose not taking notice what goods were laden, aboard the said ship, or for whose Account;

Robert Cooper [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]


Gold R[?och] and others against dobins)
Smith Suckley)

Examined on an allegation on behalfe of the said dobins

Rp. 7us

Robert Land of Ratcliff in the parish of Stepney and
County of Middlesex Mariner aged 45 yeares or thereabouts
a wittnesse sworne and examined saith and deposeth as
followeth videlicet.

To the first article of the sayd allegation hee saith hee hath bin a Mariner
for these thirty yeares last past and hath had the Command of shipps as Master
of them for these eighteene yeares last and more and hath in that tyme
made many voyages from this Port of London to Sain Lucar Cales
Mallega Carthagena and Allecant in Spaine
and Lisbone in Portugall, and to Genoa and Leghorne, Venice, Zant
and Zephanie and most ports in Turkey which places lye some within
and some without the streights mouth, and thereby knoweth that it is
frequent and customary for Masters of shipps who goe to those places to have an allowance
of the laders of a royall plate (which is in English money sixe pence
half penny and better) upon every duckett freight for all strangers goods and
for English goods transported to Spaine three Royalls per bayle
And for goods transported from any of the sayd places in Spaine to this Port of
London three royalls per tonne before firming of bills of ladeing
and sixe pence more pertonne at discharge of them at London And for goods
transported from Ligorne Venice Genoa and Zant (being all within the streights)
to London three [?Julies] per tonne which is about eighteene pence English, before
firming of bills, and sixe pence a tonne more for [?we]igh goods and sixe pence a bayle for fine goods at their discharge at London which
allowances are customarily paid to all Masters of shipps and their
Companyes, by the names of primage and Average, and this is a
thing publique and notorious amongst Marchants and Masters of
shipps and all such as trade at sea And hee this deponent hath had
primage and Average after the rates aforesayd paid to him and his
Company by their laders, and those rates for primage and average have
bin and are soe paid tyme out of mynde as hee hath heard from auncient
Masters of shipps and Mariners, and the reason of such allowance of
primage and Average is to encourage Masters and Companyes to bee
carefull in carrying the goods aboard and well stowing of them and alsoe
to oblige them to pay damage if any happen to their ladeing by their
default in ill stowage or the like And further to this article hee cannot depose/

To the 2 and 3 articles of the sayd allegation saving his foregoing deposition
hee cannot depose for that hee never went any Brazeele voyage./.

To the 4th hee saith hee hath heard Captaine Andrew Rand who is lately
gone upon a voyage to the Brazeele saye about sixe or eight weekes since, and
before his departure on the sayd voyage that his Owners (for that they know there was



Andrew Rand


Primary sources


C 5/401/61 Short title: Beckford v Rand. Plaintiffs: Richard Beckford. Defendants: Andrew Rand. Subject: money matters, Kent. Document type: answer. 1657