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upon Safferon hill aforesaid in the house where the sayd Tobias Lisle
then and now lived and liveth in presence of this deponent and the sayd Robert Banks and this
deponent beleeveth and knoweth nothing to the contrary, but that the sayd bill was
reall and not in trust or colourable and he rather believeth it soe to be for that the sayd Mr Lisle told him the deponent that hee had formerly lent to the GUTTER[#]

[LH MARGIN AT NINETY DEGREES] [#]sayd Sampson Edwards threescore
and tenn pounds and that to sayd
Edwards had in consideration
thereof made to sayd bill of sale
to him the sayd Lisle.

And saith hee knoweth not the Interrogate
Sindersby nor did at any tyme heare him say any thing to the effect Interrogate
And further hee cannot depose./

Repeated the 30th of August 1656 before
doctor ffoorth

Arthur Minshen [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]


This 16th day of August 1656/

A matter of Examination of wittnesses on the behalfe}
Of ffrancis Rose the master of the shipp}
Abrahams offering against John Nicholas William}
Van Brough and others the laders Of the goods}
Suckley Smith}

Examined upon an allegation on behalfe of the
sayd ffrancis Rose./



Cornelius Garretson of fflushing Mariner
twenty sixe yeares of age or thereabouts a wittness
sworne and examined saith and deposeth as follweth videlicet.

To the first article of the sayd allegation hee saith hee this deponent was and
is Master of a shipp called the Cabbidgeman of fflushing which shipp (as he GUTTER
saith laye asterne of the Abrahams Offering at the same tyme when the sayd
shipp Abrahams Offering lay in the Port of fflushing and tooke in her
ladeing in question which was about the beginning of July last 1656
and was often on board the Abrahams Offering both before and while shee was
taking in her ladeing and thereby observed that the sayd shipp was then a
tight and sufficient shipp to carry Merchants goods and also observed that
when her company pumped her shee voided very little water at the
pumpe for divers tydes And for a tight strong shipp the sayd shipp the
Abrahams Offering was and is accompted and this deponent, lying now by
her in the River of Thames hee doth and hath observed that shee is still a
tight strong shipp and doth voide little water at her pumpe he this
deponent haveing seen her pumped divers tymes since shee came into [?the GUTTER]
River of Thames And further to this article hee cannot depose saving [?his GUTTER]
subsequent deposition./

To the second hee saith hee well knoweth that the port of fflushing is a
drye port and that the water goeth out of it every tyde of ebb soe that all
shipps that lade there lye dry every tyde of ebb, and by reason of [?such GUTTER]
their lying drye every tide of ebb shipps when they have receaved a
good quantitie of ladeing on board the weight thereof doth often tymes
crush them and cause them to spring leakes whereby their goods are often
tymes dammaged And and yet not through any insuffciencie of [?their GUTTER]
shipps or faults of their Masters or companyes is but meerely by their lying drye [?each GUTTER]
tide of ebb and through the weight of their ladeing receaved And hee
saith that the Abrahams Offering after shee had receaved much of her
ladeing on board her was with the weight thereof at the next tyde of ebb
crushed soe that she sprange a leake whereat shee tooke much water at
the next tyde of fludd which her Master and company by workeing at the pumpe did
discover and before her departure from fflushing caused the sayd leake
of this deponents sight and knowledge to bee stopped and amended And saith that
hee verily beleeveth and is perswaded in his conscience that what damage
is happened to the sayd shipps ladeing happened not thereto by any defect