Fish

Fish

Editorial history

14/12/12: CSG, created page

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Purpose of page

The MarineLives project is seeking to link and enhance HCA 13/71, not just to transcribe it.

Fish and fishermen feature in a number of HCA 13/71 cases and depositions, especially in connection with Newfoundland, Ireland and Spain

All associates, facilitators, advisors and PhD Forum members are encouraged to contribute to this page from their knowledge of the material, and from their broader knowledge and interest in the topic.

• Which cases mention fish and/or fishing and/or fishermen?
• What can we learn about fish, fishing and fishermen from these cases?

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Suggested links

PhD Forum
PhD Forum Themes

Jewish merchants
Portuguese merchants in London
Spanish merchants in London

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Herrings

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• "21. To the second ˹and third˺ articles hee saith and deposeth that in or about the

22. moneth of November 1656 1657 (SIC) the arlate Samuel Watson and
23. Nathaniel drinkewater (who is since decease said to be deceased)
24. did XXX lade and cause to be laded aboard the said shipp then being
25. in the port of dublin in Ireland, six a parcell of herrings
26. amounting to his best remembrance to six hundred and ninetie
27. barrells or thereabouts ˹and a hogshead of thread˺, and consigned the said goods to be in this port
28. delivered to William drinkewater be (who ( was accounted the said
29. Nathaniels brother) for the use and account of the said XXXstXXed GUTTER
30. Nathaniel drinkewater, and contracted and promised to and with the
31. said Nathaniel hutchinson (the master) that upon the delivery of the
32. said goods in this port, hee the said william drinkewater should pay
33. freight for the same after the rate of thirty shillings per tonne
34. and ˹alsoe˺ primage and average accustomed and charges, and saith that about
35. Christmas next after the said shipp arived with the said goods in this
36. port and here safely delivered the same to the said william
37. drinkewater, all which hee knoweth being Gunner of the said shipp
38. and present at the said XXXXing and delivery, and at the said
39. contract for freight and a witnesse thereunto. And otherwise
40. hee cannot depose, referring himselfe to the lawe."

- HCA 13/71 f.264v Case: Ash and others against Drinkewater; Deposition: 2. Nicholas Goldsborow of Wapping Mariner, aged 43 yeares (Signature of "Nicholas Goldsbrough" at end of deposition); Date: 25/06/1656 ("same day") . Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet.

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Pilchards

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• "9. ......................................And besides hee saith that

20. the said shipp going to Saint Ives in Cornwalll to take in her
21. outwards lading of Pilchards for Bourdeaux, the said Mr
22. Burrard sent Anthony Smith his factor from Plimouth
23. to Saint Ives to see to the said lading, and for theise reasons
24. this deponent conceiveth and beleeveth that the said shipps
25. homewards lading was in part belonging to him the said Mr
26. Burrard; which home wards lading as this deponent hath bin
27. informed by some of the said shipps company was wine
28. brandewine and prunes amounting in all to twenty three XXXXX GUTTER
29. or thereabouts, and was taken in at Bourdeaux, and that in
30. the said shipps retourne thense for Plimouth, shee was met
31. with and forcibly seized and with the said lading carried by
32. an Ostend man of warr (which soe seized her) to Ostend, and GUTTER
33. soe the said shipp and goods were and are utterly lost."

- HCA 13/71 f.519v Case: On the behalfe of George Burrard of Plimouth Marchant touching a losse in the Industrie; Deposition: 2. Josias Pilkes of Plimouth Marchant, aged 25 yeeres (Signature of "Josias: Piikes" at end of deposition) ; Date: 07/02/1656. Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet,

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Non HCA 13/71 references to Pilchards

• 'Letter 34, Greenwich, Andrew Cogan (from the gardens of Valencia, 2-7-1648)' mentions Capt. Hurlestone who was to leave Alicante and to return to Valencia. Mentions the ship Indimion by which "my friend Cap'tn W'm Rider intends to consige us with the first pilchards"

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Storage of fish

Certain bulk commodities could be carried in a leaky ship, but not fish, which quickly rotted if damp

• "a leakie shipp may carry tarr, deales and balkes without any dammage to them, but noe fish, for that must or ought to be put into a drie shipp"

- HCA 13/71 f.213r Case: XXXX ('Examined upon the fore said allegation0): Deposition: 2. Peter Johnson of Christian haven in Denmarke Merchant, aged 47 yeeres; Date. XX/XX/XXXX ('Same day')

• "the said fish was laden in rainy weather and received dammage in the transportation by meanes of very fowle weather and greate stormes"

- HCA 13/71 f.213v Case: XXXX ('Examined upon the fore said allegation'): Deposition: 2. Peter Johnson of Christian haven in Denmarke Merchant, aged 47 yeeres; Date. XX/XX/XXXX ('Same day')