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|Transcription=The 25th of ffebruary 1658.
  
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The claime of the said Pallavicino)
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in the ''Saint Laurence''.)
  
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Examined on the foresaid allegation.
  
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|Transcription=The 28th of ffebruary 1658 English style//
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'''John Nansan''' of London Merchant aged 30 yeeres
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or thereabouts sworne and examined.
  
XXX and others against Church)
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To the first , second and third articles of the said allegation hee saith
Budd Smith)
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and deposeth that hee well knoweth the producent Stephano
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Pallavicino and hath soe donne for theise tenn yeares last, for
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seaven of which yeares this deponent lived in Genua the place of the said
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producents residence and well knew him and was acquainted with him
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there all the said space, and had much doinge and dealing with him the said
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producent being there a merchant of great account and commerce
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And saith the said producent was and is one of the Nobilitie or Patritij
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and one of the principall persons of the said citie and State, and is commonly
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reputed a Native there, and was lately one of the senartors there, that
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office being there temporary and changeable on the end of a yeere or
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two, and for and as such as aforesaid, and a subiect of the Republique
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hee the said Stephano Pallavicino was and is commonly accompted
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and reputed, and the same was and is a greate dealer in merchandize
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betweene Genua and Spaine, using to send great quantities of
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silkes and other commodities from Genua, and to have the retournes
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thereof from Spaine in silver, and one that hath great Parti?das and
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dealings with the king of Spaine, by furnishing the officers and
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Garrisons of  the king of Spaine in Millain and Naples, and having
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retournes thereof made by way of exchange from Spaine, and in silver at great profit.
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And further hee cannot depose.
  
Examined on an allegation on behalfe of the sayd Surpre and
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Upon the other articles not examined by direction.
others
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'''(7us'''
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To the Interrogatories [CENTRE HEADING]
  
'''Captaine Henry Tiddiman''' of Rederiff in the County
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To the first hee saith hee was by mr Nevill (undersytanding that this
of Surrey aged fifty five yeares or thereabouts a wittness
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deponent had lived at Genua) requested to come hether and testifie what
sworne and examined saith and deposeth as followeth videlicet/
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hee knew concerning the said producent, and otherwise negatively
  
To the first article of the sayd allegation hee saith that by reason thee
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To the second hee saith hee was in the Republique of Genua about two
this deponent and his sonne and others of this deponents Company
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yeares since, but it is three yeares since hee last lived there, and then
lay neare the shipp ''Consent'' with this deponents shipp whereof hee
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saw the said producent there, and saith hee doth not know the father
hee (sic) was Commander called the ''Exchange'' at such tyme as the shipp
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or mother of the said producent, (who is about 50 yeeres of age)
''Consent'' was sunke in the River of Thames by bilgeing upon an
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but beleeveth them to be dead, and that this deponent hath often received
Anchor of the shipp ''Phenix'' whereof one Church was Commander
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money by his order and hath had much other dealing with him by bills
and helped to weigh her up againe after shee was soe sunke
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of exchange. And otherwise saving as aforesaid hee cannot answer.
hee knoweth that there was much money expended and layed
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out about the saveing and recovery of the sayd shipp ''Consent'' arlate
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out of the place in the Thames where shee was sunke and verily
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beleeveth that the charge of lighters boates Cordage and roapes
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and other materialls that were necessarily used (and many of them
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spoiled about the recovery of her) and mens wages that were
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hyred and imployed about the recovery of her did amount and
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could not chuse but amount to forty or at least five and thirty
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pounds sterling in this deponents Judgment and estimate And
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further to this article hee cannot depose./
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To the 2 and 3 articles hee saith hee cannot depose for that hee never tooke
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To the third hee saith hee knoweth Carrolo Pallavicino who is brother
any view or survey of the sayd shipp ''Consent'' or of the particulars
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of the said Stephano, and is alsoe a person of greate qualitie and dealing
of the dammage done her by her being soe sunke./
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but hee doth not know any other person called Stephano Pallavicino but
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the foresaid person by him soe deposed of, who when this deponent soe came
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from genua had his house neare the Cathedral church there. And
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otherwise hee cannot answer, saving as aforesaid.
  
To the 4th article hee saith that hee hath credibly heard by one Mr William
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To the 4th hee cannot answer otherwise than as aforesaid.
Castle a Shipwright and severall others that since the sayd shipp
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''Consent'' was sunke and recovered and hawled a shoare neere the
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sayd Mr Castles Key or yarde one Mr Gold did buy her of her Owners for
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seaven hundred and odd pounds and afterwards conceiving her to
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bee too deere of that rate did recede from his bargaine and agreement
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And further hee cannot depose./
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To the Interrogatories [CENTRE HEADING]
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To the 5 and 6 hee cannot answer, saving negatively for his part/.
  
To the first Interrogatorie hee saith hee was required by one Mr Reneere
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To the last hee hath not soe deposed.
in the behalfe of the producent to testifie the truth of his knowledge
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in this case and saith it will be neither profitt nor preiudice to him
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which soe ever of the parties litigant prevaile in this cause and to the rest
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of the Interrogatories hee answereth negatively./
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To the 2 Interrogatorie hee saith , hee knew both the shipps the ''Consent'' amd ''Phenix''
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Repeated before doctor Godolphin.
Interrate, the ''Consent'' for these tenn or twelve yeares last past and the
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''Phenix'' from the lyeing when the dammage in question happened which
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was to the best of his now remembrance about May or June last was a twelve
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moneth And saith hee last sawe the ''Consent'' in Aprill last past, shee
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then lyeing at the sayd Castles yards by REderiff wall and saith the
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last tyme hee sawe the ''Phenix'' was when the dammage in question
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happened shee lyeing then in the River of Thames over against Rederiff stayres
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where the dammage in question happened And further saving his foregoeing
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depositions in this cause taken (hee having bin formerly examined
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therein) to which hee presently XXX cannot more
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particularly answer to this Interrogatorie./
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John Nansan [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
 
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The 25th of ffebruary 1658.

The claime of the said Pallavicino)
in the Saint Laurence.)

Examined on the foresaid allegation.

4.

John Nansan of London Merchant aged 30 yeeres
or thereabouts sworne and examined.

To the first , second and third articles of the said allegation hee saith
and deposeth that hee well knoweth the producent Stephano
Pallavicino and hath soe donne for theise tenn yeares last, for
seaven of which yeares this deponent lived in Genua the place of the said
producents residence and well knew him and was acquainted with him
there all the said space, and had much doinge and dealing with him the said
producent being there a merchant of great account and commerce
And saith the said producent was and is one of the Nobilitie or Patritij
and one of the principall persons of the said citie and State, and is commonly
reputed a Native there, and was lately one of the senartors there, that
office being there temporary and changeable on the end of a yeere or
two, and for and as such as aforesaid, and a subiect of the Republique
hee the said Stephano Pallavicino was and is commonly accompted
and reputed, and the same was and is a greate dealer in merchandize
betweene Genua and Spaine, using to send great quantities of
silkes and other commodities from Genua, and to have the retournes
thereof from Spaine in silver, and one that hath great Parti?das and
dealings with the king of Spaine, by furnishing the officers and
Garrisons of the king of Spaine in Millain and Naples, and having
retournes thereof made by way of exchange from Spaine, and in silver at great profit.
And further hee cannot depose.

Upon the other articles not examined by direction.

To the Interrogatories [CENTRE HEADING]

To the first hee saith hee was by mr Nevill (undersytanding that this
deponent had lived at Genua) requested to come hether and testifie what
hee knew concerning the said producent, and otherwise negatively

To the second hee saith hee was in the Republique of Genua about two
yeares since, but it is three yeares since hee last lived there, and then
saw the said producent there, and saith hee doth not know the father
or mother of the said producent, (who is about 50 yeeres of age)
but beleeveth them to be dead, and that this deponent hath often received
money by his order and hath had much other dealing with him by bills
of exchange. And otherwise saving as aforesaid hee cannot answer.

To the third hee saith hee knoweth Carrolo Pallavicino who is brother
of the said Stephano, and is alsoe a person of greate qualitie and dealing
but hee doth not know any other person called Stephano Pallavicino but
the foresaid person by him soe deposed of, who when this deponent soe came
from genua had his house neare the Cathedral church there. And
otherwise hee cannot answer, saving as aforesaid.

To the 4th hee cannot answer otherwise than as aforesaid.

To the 5 and 6 hee cannot answer, saving negatively for his part/.

To the last hee hath not soe deposed.

Repeated before doctor Godolphin.

John Nansan [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]