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|Transcription=the like in effect what is that to you, I looke not upon you as one that is to
|Transcription=Chauntry Ashmore and fford only during this voyage and since, and saith
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bee made acquainted with that, whereto the sayd Gosling replyed to this effect
the first tyme hee sawe them was at Gravesend before the shipps ''Adventure'' and
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I was told by the Merchants our Imployers when I was hyred, that you (meaning
''Greyhound'' went from thense upon the voyage in question And what they
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the sayd Damerell) were to doe nothing of great concernement touching this voyage
are accompted as to their repute and honestie hee knoweth not nor whether
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without the advise of your mates and harponeeres, and therefore I pray consider what you
they were ever at Greeneland before the voyage in question. And
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doe, for it is good to take neighbours fare, there no as able men in the other
further cannot answere./
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shipps (meaning the sayd Welches Childs Pybus and Goldings shipps) as any
 
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are in ours, and as desyrous to advance their voyage as wee, and they doe
To the 16th hee saith he was never at Greenland till the voyage in
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not worke any further in why then should wee if wee leave our
question and soe farr as hee observed the ice did not then open more then as the
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Company wee may come to repent it too late, whereto the sayd damerell
same was forced by strength of men who endeavoured to make their way
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answereing in an angrie manner, sayd to the sayd Gosling Jus or the like
through it and further cannot answere/
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in effect, I looke upon you but as the Cabbin boy
 
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and as a simple fellowe,
To the 17th hee saith hee never heard the sayd damerell after hee was
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with which words the sayd Gosling being provoked, thereupon
gotten out of the Ice as aforesayd make any the least overture to his
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replyed and sayd thus or the like in effect wee will goe noe further except there were better hopes
company to goe in againe and therefore knoweth not what to beleeve
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of getting to harbour, and thereupon severall angrie words passing betwixt
as touching others but saith hee would have
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the sayd Gosling and damerell which this deponent doth
obeyed commands in the cause Interrogate, nor knoweth whether the Ice were better or worse for
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not now remember, the sayd damerell at length called the sayd Gosling
enterance after the sayd damerell came out thereof And further saving
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pimpeing rogue, and gave him other opprobious language which not=
his foregoeing deposition hee cannot answere.
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withstanding the sayd damerell still continueing his commands to
 
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have the sayd shipp'' Owners Adventure'' wrought further into the Ice and
Repeated before doctor Godolphin/
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the shallopps being by the sayd shipps Company made ready to that purpose
 
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while the words predeposed of happened betwixt the sayd damerell and Gosling,
John Elley SIGNATURE, RH SIDE
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the sayd Gosling and Maundry and all the rest of the sayd shipps
 
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Company of which this deponent was one) did obey the Commands of the sayd
The 29th day of december 1656/
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damerell and did labour very earnestly from the sayd 17th day of June
 
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last at which tyme they left the company of the other fower shipps to the eighteenth thereof to worke the sayd shipp futher into the Ice
Examined upon the sayd allegation./
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according to the sayd Damerells Commands, and in that tyme did worke her
 
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about fower or five myles further into the Ice towards shoare than the other
'''Rp. 2'''
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fower shipps whose companyes they had left did goe, and did not the sayd
 
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Gosling and Maundry did not (soe farr as hee this deponent could or did
'''John Colvile''' of Ratcliff in the parish of Stepney and county
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see and observe) either by words or actions disobey the sayd damerells com=
of Middlesex Mariner Gunner of the ''Owners Adventure'' aged
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mands after the words predeposed of spoken before they forsooke the Company
thirty sixe yeares or thereabouts a wittnes sworne and examined
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of the other fower shipps, nor encourage any others to doe soe, and the sayd shipp
saith and deposeth as followeth videlicet./
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being wrought 4 or 5 myles further into the Ice as aforesayd, the sayd shipp
 
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was by the sayd damerells Command made fast to a peece of Ice, and after
To the first and second articles of the sayd allegation hee saith for that
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shee had soe continued fastned about twelve or fowerteene howers there
his this deponent went Gunner of the ''Owners Adventure'' the voyage in question
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others of the sayd shipp ''Owners Adventures'' Company then on the deck
hee knoweth that the sayd voyage was a voyage to Greeneland for the catching
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sayd, that if the other fower shipps which they had left did endeavour to worke
of whales and that the arlate Thomas damerell was and went master of her
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in after him, then his shipp was soe much foreward as then theirs, and that
and the arlate Richard Maundry and Edward Gosling went and were his Mates
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hee would then worke farther in toward shoare, but if the sayd other fower
of the sayd shipp the sayd voyage And further to those articles hee cannot
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shipps did worke out againe to Sea hee would doe the like, and did accordingly
depose not being present when the sayd Maundrie and Gosling were hyred nor
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order some of the sayd shipps Company (but who by name hee now remembreth
knowing who hyred them nor what agreement was made with them./
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not) to goe up into the shrowdes to discover which way the heads of the said shipps
 
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did
To the 3 article of the sayd allegation hee saith that the arlate Maundry and
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Gosling and the Rest of the Company of the ''Owners Adventure'' did about the
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second of June 1656 bring the sayd shipp within three leagues or thereabouts
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of Bell Point arlate, and that when they were there, the Port did beare
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North East of the sayd shipp, and being gott soe neere, this deponent and
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the rest of the sayd shipps company did expect that the sayd damerell
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the Master would have given order to have wrought the sayd shipp further
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into the ice or at least made her fast to the ice which if hee had done
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in all likelyhood and as hee verily beleeveth hee the sayd damerell might
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have gotten the sayd shipp into Bell Sound hee having then a fairer oportunitie
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soe
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|Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]
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[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdFlXNjQ3ekM0WW5NS1oyN250QUpJd0E#gid=0 HCA 3/47 Page Log & Planner]
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the like in effect what is that to you, I looke not upon you as one that is to
bee made acquainted with that, whereto the sayd Gosling replyed to this effect
I was told by the Merchants our Imployers when I was hyred, that you (meaning
the sayd Damerell) were to doe nothing of great concernement touching this voyage
without the advise of your mates and harponeeres, and therefore I pray consider what you
doe, for it is good to take neighbours fare, there no as able men in the other
shipps (meaning the sayd Welches Childs Pybus and Goldings shipps) as any
are in ours, and as desyrous to advance their voyage as wee, and they doe
not worke any further in why then should wee if wee leave our
Company wee may come to repent it too late, whereto the sayd damerell
answereing in an angrie manner, sayd to the sayd Gosling Jus or the like
in effect, I looke upon you but as the Cabbin boy
and as a simple fellowe,
with which words the sayd Gosling being provoked, thereupon
replyed and sayd thus or the like in effect wee will goe noe further except there were better hopes
of getting to harbour, and thereupon severall angrie words passing betwixt
the sayd Gosling and damerell which this deponent doth
not now remember, the sayd damerell at length called the sayd Gosling
pimpeing rogue, and gave him other opprobious language which not=
withstanding the sayd damerell still continueing his commands to
have the sayd shipp Owners Adventure wrought further into the Ice and
the shallopps being by the sayd shipps Company made ready to that purpose
while the words predeposed of happened betwixt the sayd damerell and Gosling,
the sayd Gosling and Maundry and all the rest of the sayd shipps
Company of which this deponent was one) did obey the Commands of the sayd
damerell and did labour very earnestly from the sayd 17th day of June
last at which tyme they left the company of the other fower shipps to the eighteenth thereof to worke the sayd shipp futher into the Ice
according to the sayd Damerells Commands, and in that tyme did worke her
about fower or five myles further into the Ice towards shoare than the other
fower shipps whose companyes they had left did goe, and did not the sayd
Gosling and Maundry did not (soe farr as hee this deponent could or did
see and observe) either by words or actions disobey the sayd damerells com=
mands after the words predeposed of spoken before they forsooke the Company
of the other fower shipps, nor encourage any others to doe soe, and the sayd shipp
being wrought 4 or 5 myles further into the Ice as aforesayd, the sayd shipp
was by the sayd damerells Command made fast to a peece of Ice, and after
shee had soe continued fastned about twelve or fowerteene howers there
others of the sayd shipp Owners Adventures Company then on the deck
sayd, that if the other fower shipps which they had left did endeavour to worke
in after him, then his shipp was soe much foreward as then theirs, and that
hee would then worke farther in toward shoare, but if the sayd other fower
shipps did worke out againe to Sea hee would doe the like, and did accordingly
order some of the sayd shipps Company (but who by name hee now remembreth
not) to goe up into the shrowdes to discover which way the heads of the said shipps
did