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| − | * | + | * "21. To the second ˹and third˺ articles hee saith and deposeth that in or about the |
| + | 22. moneth of November 1656 1657 (SIC) the arlate Samuel Watson and | ||
| + | 23. Nathaniel drinkewater (who is since decease said to be deceased) | ||
| + | 24. did XXX lade and cause to be laded aboard the said shipp then being | ||
| + | 25. in the port of dublin in Ireland, six a parcell of herrings | ||
| + | 26. amounting to his best remembrance to six hundred and ninetie | ||
| + | 27. barrells or thereabouts ˹and a hogshead of thread˺, and consigned the said goods to be in this port | ||
| + | 28. delivered to William drinkewater be (who ( was accounted the said | ||
| + | 29. Nathaniels brother) for the use and account of the said XXXstXXed GUTTER | ||
| + | 30. Nathaniel drinkewater, and contracted and promised to and with the | ||
| + | 31. said Nathaniel hutchinson (the master) that upon the delivery of the | ||
| + | 32. said goods in this port, hee the said william drinkewater should pay | ||
| + | 33. freight for the same after the rate of thirty shillings per tonne | ||
| + | 34. and ˹alsoe˺ primage and average accustomed and charges, and saith that about | ||
| + | 35. Christmas next after the said shipp arived with the said goods in this | ||
| + | 36. port and here safely delivered the same to the said william | ||
| + | 37. drinkewater, all which hee knoweth being Gunner of the said shipp | ||
| + | 38. and present at the said XXXXing and delivery, and at the said | ||
| + | 39. contract for freight and a witnesse thereunto. And otherwise | ||
| + | 40. hee cannot depose, referring himselfe to the lawe." | ||
| − | + | - ''HCA 13/71 f.264v Case: Ash and others against Drinkewater; Deposition: 2. Nicholas Goldsborow of Wapping Mariner, aged 43 yeares (Signature of "Nicholas Goldsbrough" at end of deposition); Date: 25/06/1656 ("same day") . Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet.''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=743&scripto_doc_page_id=738 HCA 13/71 f.264v]</ref> | |
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| + | ==Pilchards== | ||
| − | + | XXXX | |
| − | + | * "9. ......................................And besides hee saith that | |
| + | 20. the said shipp going to Saint Ives in Cornwalll to take in her | ||
| + | 21. outwards lading of Pilchards for Bourdeaux, the said Mr | ||
| + | 22. Burrard sent Anthony Smith his factor from Plimouth | ||
| + | 23. to Saint Ives to see to the said lading, and for theise reasons | ||
| + | 24. this deponent conceiveth and beleeveth that the said shipps | ||
| + | 25. homewards lading was in part belonging to him the said Mr | ||
| + | 26. Burrard; which home wards lading as this deponent hath bin | ||
| + | 27. informed by some of the said shipps company was wine | ||
| + | 28. brandewine and prunes amounting in all to twenty three XXXXX GUTTER | ||
| + | 29. or thereabouts, and was taken in at Bourdeaux, and that in | ||
| + | 30. the said shipps retourne thense for Plimouth, shee was met | ||
| + | 31. with and forcibly seized and with the said lading carried by | ||
| + | 32. an Ostend man of warr (which soe seized her) to Ostend, and GUTTER | ||
| + | 33. soe the said shipp and goods were and are utterly lost." | ||
| − | + | - ''HCA 13/71 f.519v Case: On the behalfe of George Burrard of Plimouth Marchant touching a losse in the Industrie; Deposition: 2. Josias Pilkes of Plimouth Marchant, aged 25 yeeres (Signature of "Josias: Piikes" at end of deposition) ; Date: 07/02/1656. Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet,''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=911&scripto_doc_page_id=1158 HCA 13/71 f.519v]</ref> | |
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| + | ===Non HCA 13/71 references to Pilchards=== | ||
| − | + | * 'Letter 34, Greenwich, Andrew Cogan (from the gardens of Valencia, 2-7-1648)' mentions Capt. Hurlestone who was to leave Alicante and to return to Valencia. Mentions the ship Indimion by which "my friend Cap'tn W'm Rider intends to consige us with the first pilchards"<ref>José Ignacio Martínez Ruiz, Perry Gauci, ''Mercaderes ingleses en Alicante en el siglo XVII: estudio y edición de la correspondencia comercial de Richard Houncell & Co'' (Alicante, 2008), p. ?</ref> | |
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| + | ==Salmon== | ||
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| + | ==Storage of fish== | ||
| − | + | '''Certain bulk commodities could be carried in a leaky ship, but not fish, which quickly rotted if damp''' | |
| − | * | + | * "a leakie shipp may carry tarr, deales and balkes without any dammage to them, but noe fish, for that must or ought to be put into a drie shipp" |
| − | + | - ''HCA 13/71 f.213r Case: XXXX ('Examined upon the fore said allegation0): Deposition: 2. Peter Johnson of Christian haven in Denmarke Merchant, aged 47 yeeres; Date. XX/XX/XXXX ('Same day')''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/?p=4&scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=687&scripto_doc_page_id=595 HCA 13/71 f.213r]</ref> | |
| − | + | * "the said fish was laden in rainy weather and received dammage in the transportation by meanes of very fowle weather and greate stormes" | |
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| − | + | - ''HCA 13/71 f.213v Case: XXXX ('Examined upon the fore said allegation'): Deposition: 2. Peter Johnson of Christian haven in Denmarke Merchant, aged 47 yeeres; Date. XX/XX/XXXX ('Same day')''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/?p=4&scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=687&scripto_doc_page_id=596 HCA 13/71 f.213v]</ref> | |
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Fish
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Contents
Suggested links
Jewish merchants
Portuguese merchants in London
Spanish merchants in London
Cod
Herrings
XXXX
- "21. To the second ˹and third˺ articles hee saith and deposeth that in or about the
22. moneth of November 1656 1657 (SIC) the arlate Samuel Watson and
23. Nathaniel drinkewater (who is since decease said to be deceased)
24. did XXX lade and cause to be laded aboard the said shipp then being
25. in the port of dublin in Ireland, six a parcell of herrings
26. amounting to his best remembrance to six hundred and ninetie
27. barrells or thereabouts ˹and a hogshead of thread˺, and consigned the said goods to be in this port
28. delivered to William drinkewater be (who ( was accounted the said
29. Nathaniels brother) for the use and account of the said XXXstXXed GUTTER
30. Nathaniel drinkewater, and contracted and promised to and with the
31. said Nathaniel hutchinson (the master) that upon the delivery of the
32. said goods in this port, hee the said william drinkewater should pay
33. freight for the same after the rate of thirty shillings per tonne
34. and ˹alsoe˺ primage and average accustomed and charges, and saith that about
35. Christmas next after the said shipp arived with the said goods in this
36. port and here safely delivered the same to the said william
37. drinkewater, all which hee knoweth being Gunner of the said shipp
38. and present at the said XXXXing and delivery, and at the said
39. contract for freight and a witnesse thereunto. And otherwise
40. hee cannot depose, referring himselfe to the lawe."
- HCA 13/71 f.264v Case: Ash and others against Drinkewater; Deposition: 2. Nicholas Goldsborow of Wapping Mariner, aged 43 yeares (Signature of "Nicholas Goldsbrough" at end of deposition); Date: 25/06/1656 ("same day") . Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet.[1]
Pilchards
XXXX
- "9. ......................................And besides hee saith that
20. the said shipp going to Saint Ives in Cornwalll to take in her
21. outwards lading of Pilchards for Bourdeaux, the said Mr
22. Burrard sent Anthony Smith his factor from Plimouth
23. to Saint Ives to see to the said lading, and for theise reasons
24. this deponent conceiveth and beleeveth that the said shipps
25. homewards lading was in part belonging to him the said Mr
26. Burrard; which home wards lading as this deponent hath bin
27. informed by some of the said shipps company was wine
28. brandewine and prunes amounting in all to twenty three XXXXX GUTTER
29. or thereabouts, and was taken in at Bourdeaux, and that in
30. the said shipps retourne thense for Plimouth, shee was met
31. with and forcibly seized and with the said lading carried by
32. an Ostend man of warr (which soe seized her) to Ostend, and GUTTER
33. soe the said shipp and goods were and are utterly lost."
- HCA 13/71 f.519v Case: On the behalfe of George Burrard of Plimouth Marchant touching a losse in the Industrie; Deposition: 2. Josias Pilkes of Plimouth Marchant, aged 25 yeeres (Signature of "Josias: Piikes" at end of deposition) ; Date: 07/02/1656. Transcribed by Colin Greenstreet,[2]
Non HCA 13/71 references to Pilchards
- 'Letter 34, Greenwich, Andrew Cogan (from the gardens of Valencia, 2-7-1648)' mentions Capt. Hurlestone who was to leave Alicante and to return to Valencia. Mentions the ship Indimion by which "my friend Cap'tn W'm Rider intends to consige us with the first pilchards"[3]
Salmon
Storage of fish
Certain bulk commodities could be carried in a leaky ship, but not fish, which quickly rotted if damp
- "a leakie shipp may carry tarr, deales and balkes without any dammage to them, but noe fish, for that must or ought to be put into a drie shipp"
- HCA 13/71 f.213r Case: XXXX ('Examined upon the fore said allegation0): Deposition: 2. Peter Johnson of Christian haven in Denmarke Merchant, aged 47 yeeres; Date. XX/XX/XXXX ('Same day')[4]
- "the said fish was laden in rainy weather and received dammage in the transportation by meanes of very fowle weather and greate stormes"
- ↑ HCA 13/71 f.264v
- ↑ HCA 13/71 f.519v
- ↑ José Ignacio Martínez Ruiz, Perry Gauci, Mercaderes ingleses en Alicante en el siglo XVII: estudio y edición de la correspondencia comercial de Richard Houncell & Co (Alicante, 2008), p. ?
- ↑ HCA 13/71 f.213r
- ↑ HCA 13/71 f.213v
