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===Case: Libell on the behalfe of Jeremie Crewe: Personal answer: John Moore: Date: XXXX===
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The personall answeares of
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John Moore made to the
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posicons of a libell given in
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against him on the behalfe of
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Jeremie Crowe doe followe
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Repeated before
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D:r Clark
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XX S:th
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To the first pretended posicon he
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answeareth that for his parte he doth
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not beleeve the said posicon to be
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true in anie pte thereof:/
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To the second prtensed posicon he
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answeareth and beleeveth that he
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this rendent the yeares 1646. 1647
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. & 1648. and untill about the beginning
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of Januarie in the yeare 1649. and
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noe longer as he beleeveth was
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Master and Commander of the Shipp
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the ''Jeremie'' arlate And otherwise
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for his parte he doth not beleeveth
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the said posicon to be true in anie pte
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thereof/
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To the third pused posicon he answeareth
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and beleeveth that duinge the tyme
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aforesaid that this rendent was M:r
 +
of the Shipp arlate he this rendent
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did make one voyage to Newfoundland ?&
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Mallaga, XXXXXXXXX to Mallaga and thXXX XX XX
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voyage in the service of the State
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as a man of warr XXXXX ?other
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frencheman to ?Barcellona and
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saile//
 
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//of the State the said shipp iXXXX XXX
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//of the State the said shipp in case the same
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had beene XXX ?did cleere betwixt
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had beene prize did cleere betwixt
 
eight and nine hundred poundes about 500:li
 
eight and nine hundred poundes about 500:li
 
whereof is still unpaid and the remainder
 
whereof is still unpaid and the remainder
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one of the Owners of the said shipp
 
one of the Owners of the said shipp
 
receaved & paid to everie Owner
 
receaved & paid to everie Owner
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as he beleeveth theire XXXXX XX
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as he beleeveth theire respective
 
shares thereof And for the last voyage
 
shares thereof And for the last voyage
 
from hence to Barcellona and
 
from hence to Barcellona and
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//To the third hee answereth and beleiveth
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that the said lighter was broken from her
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mooreings in manner as aforesaid by the
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default neglect & carlesnesse of the said
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Cocque and company and otherwise  savinge
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his proceeding answers to which hee
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referreth himselfe, which he beleeveth
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to bee true hee doth not beleive the said
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prsed posicon to bee true in any parte
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To the 4::th and fifth he answereth & beleiveth
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that the said cable and Anchor are foule
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of and entangled with the racked vessell or
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amongst the goods in the same and thos
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respondent cannot possible acquire or gett
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the same againe as he beleiveth and
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otherwise hee doth not beleive the said pused
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posicon to bee true in any parte.
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To the sixth he answereth and beleiveth that
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the said vessell beinge soe unhappily driven
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from her mooreings aforesaid was not
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gotten thither agayne or ever amended after
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the sammadge aforesaid but was soone
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after cast away which was cheifly occasioned
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by reason of her being broken loose by the said
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Cooque and company in manner aforesaid
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as he beeliveth and otherwise doth not beleive
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the same to bee true in any parte.
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To the seaventh he answereth and beleiveth
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that if the said Cable could have beene gotten
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agayne the same might have beene amended
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& spliced together agayne but it would have
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beene the worse by neere 40:s as he beleiveth
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& otherwise referringe himselfe to his answers
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to y:e 4:.th & 5:th. which hee beleiveth to bee true hee
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doth not beleeve the same to bee true in any
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parte.
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To y:e last he answereth that saveinge his former
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answeres which he beleiveth to bee true hee doth
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not beleive the same to bee true in any parte./
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THO: MAY  [His signature]
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huc ?computari
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===Case: Allon in the name of Robert Carse of Warwicke late Lord High Admirall of England: Personal Answers: Captaine Thomas Johnson: Date: July 12th 1652===
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Repeated before
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D:r Clerk one
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of the Judges x:r
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The psonall Answers of Captaine
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Thomas Johnson made to the pre
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tensed positions of a pused Allon
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given against him in the name of
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Robert Carse of Warwick late
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Lord high Admirall of England as
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followeth/.
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To the first hee answereth and beleeveth that
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the said Shippe the ''Thomas and Margaret''
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did some few daies before shee was sei
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zed in the Downes by the revolted ffleet?e
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come from North Yarmouth arlate
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and was there stayed and forced to
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XXXX the then Prince of Wales &
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others in the revolted ffleete as hee be
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leeveth And otherwise hee doeth not bee
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leeve the said pused position to bee true
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in any pte
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To the second hee answereth and beleeveth
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that at the time when the said vessell was
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seized in the Downes hee this rendent
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was onboard the Viceadmirall
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or some other shipps in the said revolted
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ffleete and did goe ?voluntarily into the
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said ffleete as hee beleeveth and was
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under their power as hee beleeveth but
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the said vessell came into the Downes
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the time aforesaid when shee was seized
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by the said revolted ffleete without the
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directions or knowledge of this respon
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dent And otherwise hee doeth not beleeve
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the said pused position to bee true in
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any pte.///
 
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//To the third hee answereth and beleeveth
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that after the said shippe was come into
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the Downes as a foresaid shee was forced
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to bee and remaine in the revolted
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ffleete untill such time as the Company
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thereof could get an opportunity to
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escape away with her againe which
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was this respondents directions to
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them that they should doe with the XX
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nest as hee beleeveth And otherwise
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hee for his pte doeth not beleeve the
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said pused position to bee true in any pt
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To the 4:th hee answereth and beleeveth
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that the said shipp was kept and
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detained in the said ffleete by the
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space of five or six monethes as he
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beleeveth before she could make an
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escape being for a great pt of that
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time locked upp within the Bridge
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at XXXXX shire that shee could not
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possibly get away as hee bleaveth &
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hee beleeveth that dureing most pt of
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that time the arlate ?harby was onbord
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the said vessell and was taken out of her
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by Command of the Prince or some
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other if the Commanders in regard
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hee endeavoured to make an escape with
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her as hee beleeveth And otherwise
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saving his former Answers hee doeth
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not beleeve the said position to bee true
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in any pte
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To the 5.:th hee answereth That after the
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said shipp had beene soome few daies//
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//with the said revolted ffleete the certaine
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time he doeth not now remember
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shee was sent to Callico to carry some
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of the Prince of Wales his ?Linnen
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to bee washed as hee beleeveth and there
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did or might some gentlemen goe there
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in as hee beleeveth whoe did cause the
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said vessell to goe and returne againe
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to the said revolted ffleete as hee belee
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veth and prevent the same from goeing
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into any port in obedience to the Par-
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liam:t: but afterwards the said vessell
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did by the especiall order of this rendent
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make an escape from the said ffleete
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and saile into Dartmouth the same
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being for the Parliam:t: and in obed:
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ence to them as hee beleeveth And
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otherwise hee doeth not beleeve the
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same to bee true in any pte
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To the last hee answereth that saveing
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his former Answers hee doeth not
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beleeve the same to bee tru in any
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part/
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THO: JOHNSON  [His signature]
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Case: Libell on the behalfe of Jeremie Crewe: Personal answer: John Moore: Date: XXXX


The personall answeares of
John Moore made to the
posicons of a libell given in
against him on the behalfe of
Jeremie Crowe doe followe

Repeated before
D:r Clark
XX S:th

To the first pretended posicon he
answeareth that for his parte he doth
not beleeve the said posicon to be
true in anie pte thereof:/

To the second prtensed posicon he
answeareth and beleeveth that he
this rendent the yeares 1646. 1647
. & 1648. and untill about the beginning
of Januarie in the yeare 1649. and
noe longer as he beleeveth was
Master and Commander of the Shipp
the Jeremie arlate And otherwise
for his parte he doth not beleeveth
the said posicon to be true in anie pte
thereof/

To the third pused posicon he answeareth
and beleeveth that duinge the tyme
aforesaid that this rendent was M:r
of the Shipp arlate he this rendent
did make one voyage to Newfoundland ?&
Mallaga, XXXXXXXXX to Mallaga and thXXX XX XX
voyage in the service of the State
as a man of warr XXXXX ?other
frencheman to ?Barcellona and
saile//


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//sail to Marselles, and then to
Barbary and backe to Marselles
againe where this rendent by order
and w:th the consent of all or the
Maior part of her Owners left
her in the possession of another master
the ffreight of allw:ch voyages except
the ffreight of the yoyage wherein
the said ship was in the service of
the State; this rendent beleeveth
he receaved and hath
accounted for the same unto the
Owners of the said shipp And
otherwise for his part, he doth not
beleeve the said posicon to be true
in anie pt thereof,

To the ffowerth p:rted posicon he
answeareth and beleeveth that the
voyage from hence to Newfound
land and soe to Mallaga and hence
to London the said shipp cleered in
the whole shipp 105:li & not above
as he beleeveth, and in the next
voyage from hence to Mallaga, &
home againe 107:li & not above as
he beleeveth 14:li whereof more
than his share & Randall Crewe
receaved of under M:r Roydeon and
for the voyage in the service of//

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//of the State the said shipp in case the same
had beene prize did cleere betwixt
eight and nine hundred poundes about 500:li
whereof is still unpaid and the remainder
beinge about 400:li and Daniel Bright
one of the Owners of the said shipp
receaved & paid to everie Owner
as he beleeveth theire respective
shares thereof And for the last voyage
from hence to Barcellona and
then to Marselles and soe to Barbary
and Marcelles againe this rendent
beleeveth there was losse uppon the
said voyage about 440. or 450:li by
reason the said shipp was imbargoed.
att Marcelles by the space of sixe
monthes the Plague beinge
then aboard her And otherwise for
his part savinge his former annswers
he doth not beleeve the said posicon
to be true in anie part thereof

To the ffyfth prtended posicon he
answeareth and beleeveth that hee
this rendent beinge w:th the same
shipp the Jerimye att Marcelles
& haveinge extraordinary occasions
of his owne by reason of some estate
which fell unto him here in England//


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//ba the death of an Uncle to come home
for England this rendent did intimate
the said occasions and necessities
unto M:r Gilbert Morrewood M:r
Richard ?Shute and M:r Daniel
Bright being the principall Owners
of the said shipp, and desired of
them that they would be pleased
to signifie this rendents necessities
unto the rest of the Owners of the
said shipp or the Maior part of them
Leave for this rendent to come for
England, and allsoe to have libertie to
leave the said Tymothie Crave as
M:r in the said shipp in his steade
w:ch request this rendent beleeveth
they or some of them did signifie
& make knowne unto all or the next
of the Owners of the said Shipp the
Jeremie and thereuppon the said
Owners or the Mairor pte of them
as he beleeveth did give leave unto
this rendents comeinge for England
and leaveinge the said Craven (sic) as M:r
in his steede and there thereuppon this
rendent beleeveth that he haveinge
receaved the said order he did leave
the//

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//the said sshipp in the possession of the said
Cravens as Master of her, and came away
for England And this rendent beleeveth
the same was donne wthout the knowledge
of the said Jeremie Crow?ehothon &
Still being as this rendent beleeveth
in the East Indies And otherwise for
his pte he doth not beleeve the said
posicon to be true in anie pte thereof

To the sixth pretended posicon he
answeareth and beleeveth XX that
after such tyme as the arlate Craven
came into the said shipp the Jeremie
he did make onlie one voyage w:ch was
from Marcelles to Scanderoone and
soe to Marcelles againe, and that att
his returne thither before his fraight
was paid as this rendent beleeveth his
Merchant broke soe that he lost all his
freight as he beleeveth And
otherwise for his pte he doth not beleeve
the said posicon to be true in anie
pte thereof

To the seaventh ?the sd posicon he
answeareth that for his pte he doth
not beleeve the same posicon to be
true in anie pte thereof

To the eight (sic) pretended posicon he
answeareth & beleeveth that after the//


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//the foresaid breakeinge of the said
Merchants freighters, the said
Cravens not haveing monies to paye
the marriners theire wages for the
said voyage the said Marriners
arrested the said shipp for the same &
by course of Lawe att Marcelles the
said Shipp was condemned and sould
for the payment of the said
Marriners wages & other debts then
due, uppon her the said Owners not takeing
order to pay the said wages, and other
debts then due uppon her
in tyme And otherwise
for his pte he doth not beleeve the
same posicon to be true in anie pte
thereof

To the nineth pretended posicon he
answeareth and beleeveth that the
shipp the Jeremie when Shee went
to Sea uppon her last voyage under the
said Craven was worth the summe of
600:li and not alone as he beleeveth And
otherwise for his pte he doth not
beleeve the said posicon to be
true in anie pte thereof

To the tenth the sad posicion he//

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//he answeareth and beleevth that att such
tyme as this rendent first came to be
M:r of the shipp the Jeremie arlate he
had and receaved from the Owners of her
whereof the said Jeremie Crow was
none the summe of 400:li and not above
as he beleeveth for the stocke of the
same shipp for w:ch this rendent hath long
since accounted unto the Owners thereof
And otherwise for his parte he doth
not beleeve the said posicon soe
farr as the same concerns the ?said
Jeremie Crowe to be true anie
pte thereof.

To the Eleaventh prted posicon he
answeareth that for his pte he doth
beleeve that he this rendent never
payd unto the said Crowe anie pte
of the proffitts of anie of the XXXX
voyages or ever made him anie Accompte
of the same in regard he was noe
partowner as he beleeveth And otherwise
for his pte he doth not beleeve this
posicon to be true in anie part thereof

To the Twelveth the said posicon he
answeareth and beleeveth that ?for
this rendent haveing notice and
intelligence that the said shipp was
bound from Marcelles to Scanderoone
& soe to Marcelles againe did att
the//


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//the imptantie and desire of M:r Gilbert
Moorewood, and some other of her
Owners and the said Cravens
mother cause an Assurance for the
said voyage onlie and noe longer to
be made uppon the said shipp to the
value of ?700:li and not above as he
beleeveth the Premio whereof this
rendent beleeveth the said Cravens
mother paid w:ch voyage being
ended and the said shipp comeinge
safe to Marcelles againe the same
was discharged, and voyded And
otherwise for his pte he doth not
beleeve the said posicon to be
true in anie pte thereif

To the 13:th and 14:th the said posicons
he answeareth and referreth himselfe
to the Registrie of this Court

To the last he answeareth and
beleeveth what he hath formerly
beleeved: And otherwise negatively

JN:° MOORE His signature//

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Case: Libell against them on behalfe of John Harris and John Powicke: Personal answers: Edward Bellamye and Thomas Day: Date: XXXX


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//Repeated before
D:r Exton one of
the Judges x:r
1:° Junij 1652

THE PERSONALL ANSWERS of
Edward Bellamye and Thomas
Day made to the posicons of a
libell given in against them on y:e
parte and behalfe of John
Harris & John Powicke doe
followe.

To the first pretended posicon they and
either of them answere and referr themselves
to the Contracte or Charterpartie made
betwixte these repsondents and the said
Harris and Powicke for y:e said Shippe and
voyage and remayneinge in the hands of the said
Harris and Powicke as they beleeve which
said contracts these respondents beleebe to
bee true and to bee signed sealed &, delivered
by them and otherwise for their partes they
now either of them doe not beleeve the said
posicon to bee true in any parte thereof

To the second pretended posicon they and
either of them answere, and beleeve
that the said shippw was to enter into pay
upon y,e eighteenth day of march 1647
And otherwise for their parts they now either
of them doe not beleeve the said posicon
to bee true in any parte thereof.

To the third pretended posicon they
answere that for their parts they doe
not beleeve the said posicon to bee true
in any parte thereof.//


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//or parte thereof, and on purpose to
deceave these respondents of their
shippe and freight as they beleeve
they tould these responedents the said
shipp was leakye and that they had lost
her at Cales And otherwise fir their pts
they nor either of them doe not beleeve
the said posicon to bee true in any
parte thereof.

To the 15:th pretendsed (sic) they and
either of them answer that for their
parts they doe not beleeve the said posicon
to bee true in any parte thereof

EDWARD BELLAMY [His signature]
THOMAS DAY [His signature]

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Case: Libell on the behalfe of Thomas Pearse, John Maddox, & others: Personal answer: William Thomas: Date: XXXX


Repeated before
D:r Exton one of the
Judges x:r)

The psonall answer of William Thomas
made to the posicons of an Allegacon
given in against him on the behalfe of
Thomas Pearse; John Maddox and others
doe follow.

To the first pretended posicon hee answereth that
for his parte hee doth not beleeve the said posicon to
bee true in any pte thereof

To the second pretensed posicon hee answereth that
for his parte hee doth not beleeve the said poscon
to be true in any pte thereof, Saveing that hee
beleeveth that the Citty of Bristoll was in the
moneth of Aprill and May 1643. and untill
July next following under the Power and
commande of the Parliament./
To y:e. 3:d//

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//To the .3:d. pretended posicon hee answereth and
beleeveth that in or about July .1643: the citty
of Bristoll, and the porte thereof were taken &
surprized, by the late Kings foreces and were
contynewed (sic) in his possession untill September. 1645
and noe longer as hee beleeveth And otherwise
for his parte. hee doth not beleeve the said posicon
to be true in any parte./

To the .4.:th pretensed posicon hee answereth and
beleiveth that in or about August .1643. the said
shipp the Charles and her ladeing were surprized
and taken as a prize by some shipps under
the command of the late Kinge and brought into
Bristoll and there adiudged and condemned as
Lawfull prize as this rendent beleeveth, And
otherwise for his parte, hee doth not beleeve the
said posicon to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the .5:th pretended posicon hee answereth &
belevieth, that the Boatswayne of the said
shipp the Charles, did live and inhabit in
Bristoll, at such tyme as this rendent first
bought nyne sixteenth parts of the said shipp
the Charles and before, And otherwise for his
pte hee doth not beleeve the said posicon to bee
true in any pte thereof./

To the sixt pretensed posicon hee answeareth that
for his pte hee doth not beleeve the said posicon
to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the seaventh pretensed posicon hee answereth
that for his parte; hee doth not beleeve the said
posicon to bee true in any pte thereof Saveinge
this//


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//this rendent beleevth that for all the tyme
of the warr?s betwixt the Parliament and the
late Kinge, Gloucester was in the. Power and
under the Commande of the Parliament./

To the eight (sic) pretensed posicon hee answereth
that for his parte hee doeth not beleeve the
said posicon to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the ninth pretensed posicon hee answereth
that for his parte hee doth not beleeve the said
posicon to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the tenth pretensed posicon hee answereth
and beleeveth that the owners of seaven
sixteenth partes of the shippe the Charles
vizt: Doctor ?Bavey, one ?Angell, and one
?Driver a widdowe, and some others owners of the
said seaven sixteene pte of the said shippe did
live sometime in Bristoll, and sometyme in or
neere Gloucester, and were never putt out of
the possession, of the said seaven sixteene ptes
of the said shipp, but did receave theire pte
of the pfitts thereof, notwithsatndinge the said
seizure, as this rendent beleiveth, And other-
wise for his parte, hee doeth not beleeve the
said posicon to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the .11:th pretensed posicon hee answereth
and beleeveth that the said shipp the Charles
being and remaineinge in the porte of
Bristoll extreamely decayed, and out of
repaore, this rendent in or about the moneth
of//

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//of August .1644. did for the summe of
two hundred and sixtye pounds, (w:ch this
rendent reallye paid) buy nine sixteene
partes of the said shippe of them whoe had
power to sell the same, as hee beleeveth, and
after hee had soe bought her, this rendent
Laid out, nore upon her in fittinge and
repaireinge the said shippe, the summe of
sixe hundred pounds or there abouts, And
this rendent beleeveth that before this
rendent had made any benifitt or proffit w:th
the said shippe, or the said shippe made any
voyage, the said Citty of Bristoll was
upon Articles surrendred to the Lord
ffairefaxe. in September .1645. and at
that tyme the said shippe the Charles was
and remayned in the Porte of Bristoll, and
after the surrender of the said Towne. was
and contynewed in the possession of this rendent
untill y:e 5:th of November 1645 (OR, 1648) w:ch day the said Pearse
Maddoxe & Ellis or some by their order,
w:thout any warrant or authoritye, did seize
upon, and take the said shippe the Charles
soe fitted and repayred as aforesaid, out of this
rendents possession, and deprived him thereof
to his great preiudice and dammage, And other-
wise for his pte hee doth not beleeve the said
posicon to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the .12:th, and .13.:th prdsed posicons hee
answereth and beleeveth, that at such tyme
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//as this rendent did buy the said nyne .16.:th
parts of the said shippe the Charles the same
was not worth above .200:li, and the other
parts after the same rate, but as for the
vallue of the said shipp and ladeinge, what
they were worth when they were taken, this
rendent knoweth not what to answere in
regard ?shee did not see the same, but this
rendent denieth that ever any parte of the said
shippes Ladeinge, came to this rendents
handes or possession, And otherwise for his
parte, hee doeth not beleeve the said posicon
to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the .14:th pretensed posicon hee answereth
and beleeveth that this rendent in the yeare
1637. being in Irelande was by Commission
from the late Kinge made victualler of his
shipps appointed for the Coast of Ireland
where this Rendent contynued untill the
yeare .1641./ and then the Kingdome of
Ireland being most parte of it over runn by
the rebells there this rendent by order
from the Committee of the Navye in the
yeare: 1641. was called over from thence
to Bristoll, where hee was by them
appoynted victualler for their shippes
there, in w:ch imployment hee contynued
untill the takeinge of Bristoll, by the late
Kings forces, and this rendent beleeveth
(that//

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//that at the takeing of the said Cuttye by
the late Kinges forces, this rendent
haveing a quantitye of victualls which
hee had pvided ?w:th his owne money dureinge
the tyme that the said Cittye of Bristoll
was under the power of the Parliament, the
officers of the said late Kinge, did ?require and
take from this rendent the victualls afore-
said, to furnish out the same; to such shipps
as then were there under the said late Kings
Command, And otherwise for his parte hee
doth not beleeve the said posicon to bee true
in any pte thereof.

To the fifteenth p:rtensed posicon he answereth
that for his parte he doth not beleeve the said
posicon to bee true in any parte thereof.

To y:e 16:th pretensed posicon he answereth that
for his parte he doth not beleeve the said
posicon to bee true in any pte thereof

To y;e 17:th pused posicon he answereth and
referreth himselfe to his former answers
otherwise for his parte he doth not beleeve
the said posicon to bee true in any
parte thereof.

To the 18:th pused posicon he answereth that
he doth not beleeve y:e said posicon to bee
true in any parte therof.

W:M THOMAS. [His signature]//


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Case: Libell on the behalfe of Robert Woodliffe the pretended Curator of John Stapilton: William Thomas: Date: XXXX


//Repeated before
D:r Clark one of
the Judges x:r

Rs ?EM

The Personall answers of William
Thomas made to the posicons of a
libell given in aganst him and others
on the behalfe of Robert Woodliffe
the p:rtended Curator of John
Stapilton doe followe

To the first second third fowerth fifth
sixth seaventh eighth ninth tenth eleaventh
twelfth thirteenth fowerteenth & fifteenth
p:rtesed posicons he referreth himselfe
to y:e answers of John Dennis made to
y:e posicons of the said libell remaineinge
in the Registry of this Courte
which he beleeveth to bee true And
otherwise for his parte hee doth not beleeve
the said posicons or any of them to bee
true in any parte thereof./

WM THOMAS [His signature]

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Case: Allegation on behalfe of Hance ?Dirrickson John Johnson and company: Personal answeres: Peter Scrother: Date: XXXX


Repeated before
D:r. Clerk one of the
Judges x:r

The personal answeres of Peter
Scrother made to the posicons of a
certaine pretended allegation in fact
given and admitted against him on
the parte and behalfe of Hance
?Dirrickson John Johnson and company
followe. vizt.

To the first posicon hee answereth & beleeveth
the same to bee true.

To the second pused posicon and to the pused
Schedule therein menconned he answereth
that he doth not beleeve the same pretensed
posicon on pdsed Schedule therein menconned to
bee true in any parte.///

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//To the third pretensed posicon he answereth that
he doth not beleeve that he did hire any of the
persons articulate as is articulate, for any
voyage arlate or that any of the persons
articulate did enter into for any the pused
dayes articulate as is in fact but virtuely as he
beleiveth charged in this pdsed posicon, but hee
beleiveth that he this rendent in the moneth
of May 1651. did at ?Havre de Grace[1] in
ffrance hire all the persons articulate
severally and respectively mentioned in the
schedule annexed to the allegacon whereupon
he is now examined except the articulate
Clement Rootes and William ?Reagne beinge
a boy for to serve in the shippe articulate
for severall sommes of money then agreed upon
betweene this respondent and the said severall
persons Schedulated except the said Clement
Nootes and William ?Wayne for a voyage to be
made with her from ?Naure de grace and
that after such agreement made this rendent
and the said severall persons except the said
Clement ?Nootes did and the said M:r ?Readn did
saile in the shippe the Abrahams Sacrifice
arlate ?form Havor de Grace to Cales
where they arrived with the said shippe in
August 1651. and from thence to ffaro in
Portugall where they arrived with the said
shipp in September 1651. where the said
shippe haveinge taken in a quantity of figgs
beinge but little above halfe her ladeinge did
set saile withh the same for London where
the said shippe arrived in the end of November,
1651. and beinge arrived the said shippe was
in the moneth of december next followinge
fully//


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//fully unladed and beinge soe unladed the
said voyage was fully ended whereupon
this respondent did in the said moneth of
December and as he beleeveth the 22:th or 23:th
of December 1651 beinge the next day after
the shipp was unladed, fully pay and
satiffye unto Clause Oruse Hance
Dirrickson, John Johnson John Jarvis and
Stephen Johnson all the severall wages
severally due unto them and that they did
accept of the same. and this rendent did
then at y:e tyme of y:e payment of them the said
voyage beinge fully ended discharge them
from any further service in the said shippe
which discharge they all tooke notice , but hee
beleeveth that the tyme beinge then winter
the said Claus Oruse and Hance
Dirrickson did intreate this respondent
that they two might still come on board the
said shippe and that he this respondent
would be soe friendly , unto them as to give
tnem meate and drinke on board the said
shippe and that they would for the same attend
and looke unto the said shippe and doe such
worke as was to bee done therein or thereabout
whereupon he this rendent did tell them y :t
if they would come on board and looke to y:e
said shippe in regard they had beene with
him in the said voyage before mentioned
he would give them meate and drinke:,
onely which they willingly accepted but this
respondent would not nor did take upom
him to give them any wages at all or agree
with them for any wages at all concerning
and//

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//and be XXXXXinge that y:e victualls and drinke
of the said two person was an a bundant
recompense and satisfaction for any service
that the said two parties could doe in the said
shippe after such her discharge and XXXing
her lyeinge in harbor and he beleeveth
that the arlate Hance Dirrickson Claus ?Gruse
John Johnson, and John ?Jens and Stephen
Johnson did after this rendent had soe paid
them off and discharged them in y:e moneth
of December 1651. aforesaid, afterwards
some times come on board the said shippe
and did take their victualls and frinke there
for y:e most pte of the tyme articulate and
paid nothinge for y:e same which this rendent
in regard they had been with him in the said
voyage and in favour of them suffered them
to have, and take at y:e charge of this rendent
and his owners but hee denieth that ever
he did contract agree or bargayne wth
and yof the oersons arkate to pay unto them
any wages as is arlate and he beleeveth
that in Januaray on 1651 last past the arlate
Clement Noats wantinge imployment did
repaire unto this rendent and requeated
this rendent to entertaine him, into ?theri
service in the said shippe but this rendent
told him that he had not any voyage and
that hee did not at the present need his services
but to doe him a pleasure and to suplly his
present want if he would goe on board this
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//give him victualls and when he had gott
a voyage, and the shippe should XXXX XXX belowe
the Bayes at Quiborow, then and not
before he would give unto him y:e said
Clement ?Noots soe much wages as he
had formerly given his former  ?limberman
to comence and begine from the tyme
that the said shippe should fall belowe the
said Bayes and not before, and hee the
said Noots did accept thereof and went
on board the said shippe in January 1651
and was sometymes on board the said
shippe and sometymes a shoare but for y:e
most parte of the tye arlate he tooke his
victualls and drincke a board at this
rendents charge and his owners and he
beleeveth that y:e persons arlate or some
of them did duringe the tyme arlate ?scarpe
the shippe on the outside, but refused to
scrape her in y:e Inside and that they or some
of them did sett y:e mast arlate and that
other worke saveinge the keepinge of the
shippe cleane, there was none to doe in y:e
said shippe as he beleeveth all w:ch worke as
he beleeveth was not worth a quarter parte
of the victualls and drinke which the parties
arlate did ate and drincke in the said shippe
duringe the tyme arlate and he beleeveth
that duringe the tyme arlate the pesons arlate
vizt Oland Oruse Hance Dirrickson John
Johnson , John Jons Clement Noots & Stephen
Johnson did apply themselves
to other services, not any way concerninge
the said shippe and did helpe to deliver and lade
other//

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//other shipps and thereby did gett severall sommes
of money and he beleeveth that the persons
severally before named did duringe the
tyme articulate absent themselves from
the shippe articulate to follow the said ?workes
and to follow their pleasure for severall
daies and nights, and he beleeveth that the
said Clement Noots duringe the tyme arlate
did severall tymes come on board the shipp
arlate drunck, in a very, beastly ad disorderly
manner and did draw his sworde aboard
the shippe the Abrahams Sacrifice and attempted
to wound and mischeife the men there in the
same shippe therewith, And he beleeveth that
duringe the tyme arlate, and about March
last by reason of the negligence of the psons
severally before named the shippe arlate in
the night tyme did runne a shoare at
Shadwell and her sterne broke downe a
parte of a house therem which cost this rendent
three pounds stereling to amend And hee
beleeveth that soe much as is by him
confessed hath beene observed and taken
notice of And otherwise he doth not beleeve
this prsed posicon to bee true in any parte
saveinge he beleeveth that he hath sometymes
within the tyme arlate seene the articuate
XXXXX beinge a boy on board the said Shippe
which ReagXX was brought on board the said
shippe by y:e arlate Claus Oruse as a ?Ghost as
he conceaveth the said Cruse some tymes lying
and drinkeinge ast y:e said Reagues XXX
XXXX house on shoare and hee beleeveth
that after the said XXX were soe diXXXX
XXX as afore said this rendent neither had
nor could get any voyage for the said
shipp//


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//To the fourth pised posicon he answereth
that he doth not beleeve the same to bee
true in any parte.

To the fifth he answereth that it was and
is in fact complayned to the Court of the
premisses arlate but uniustly as hee
beleeveth and otherwise hee doth not beleebe
this odsed posicon to bee true in any parte

To the sixte prused psoicon he answereth
that hee doth not beleeve the said pdused
posicon to bee true in any parte saveinge
he beleeveth that William Reaque arlate
was as he hath heard and beleeveth pressed
into the States service, and XX since released

To the last he answereth and beleeveth what
is by him beleeved and denieth what is by
him denied./

PIETER SCHRODERxx [His signature]

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Case: Allegacion on behalfe of Peter Scrother: Personal answers: Clement Nootes, John Johnson John JXXXXs and William Reage: Date: July 7th 1652


Repeated before
D:r Clarke one of
the Judges x:r

The personall answers of Clement
Nootes, John Johnson John JXXXXs
and William Reage made to the pdused
posicons of an allegacon given against
them on the behalfe of Peter Scrother
as followeth

To the first they and every of them answereth
that they have heard and doe beleive that the
said Peter Scrother is a Hamburger, but he
did hire these rendents John ?Johnson, John
?Joris and Stephen Johnson about fourteene
monethes since in ffraunce to goe to Genoa, but
he did goe to Cales and from thence to ?ffarroe
in Portugall and soe from thence to this port of
London and the rest of these respondents were hired
here//

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//here in England and they nor either of them was
even with him at Hamburrough neither hath the
said Scrother (as they and every of them beleiveth)
beene more than once att Hambrough these 7
yeares but doth trade and coast upp and downe
from place to place (as he conceiveth) most
advantagious for his benefiitt, but whether the
said shippe doth more perticulelly belonge to
one place than another these respondents
nor either of them can sweare nor doe
otherwise they or either of them
beleive the said prsed psisocon to bee true in
any part.

To the second and third they and every of them
answereth that they beleive and every of them
beleiveth that the said shippe the Abrahams
 Sacrifice did about the tyme arlate arrive at this
 port of London from ffaroe as is arlate and
did unlade and end her voyage as is arlate
the said Scrother did about the tyme arlate
pay the said persons arlate their severall wages
then respectively due unto them for their service
in y:e said vessell which they had and carryed
away and disposed andthen they were free
from any further service upon the said shippe
and might have disposed themselves as they
pleased but within two dayes after such their
releaseinge from the said vessell the said Peter
Scrother sente to these respondents John Johnson
John JoXXs XXXXX Dirrickson and Stephen
Johnson to desire them to come on board
againe to serve in the said vessell, and they
should have y:e same monethly wages as they had
formerly upon w:ch termes and noe other they
and every of them did goe on board and did doe
their worke and service upon the said shippe
scrape and gra?ne the same and tooke out the ould
foremast & sett a new foremast therein and did
performe and undergoe as much labour in
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//the said shippe as they should have undergone
if they had beene at sea as they and every of
them beleiveth, for which they did very well
deserve not onely by their victualls which they
had, but allsoe their respective monethes wages
which the said Scrother doth endeavour most
uniustly as they conceive to debarre them of but
they and every of them doth utterly denie that
they were suitors to him the said Scrother
to bee on board for victualls or did soe
agree or bargayne or would have soe
continued & remayned, if they had not really
and truly expected their monethly wages as
aforesaid and otherwise they nor either of them
doth beleive the said pretensed posicons or
either of them to bee true in any parte.

To the fowerth they and every of them
answereth that they and every of them
referreth himselfe to his
procedinge answeares which they and every
of them beleiveth to bee true and otherwise
they nor either if them beleiveth the same
to bee true in any parte and the said
Clement Nootes for his part doth declare
and sett forth by vertue of hisoath that after
hee had served upon the said shippe here
in the river of Thames about the s'pace of
two moneths he did aske the said Peter
Scrother whether hee would free him from
the said vessell and give him leave to goe out
to sea in some other shippe that was ready
to goe forth and the said Scrother did refuse
to free him and then at y:e same time a woman
to whom the said Clement Noates was indebted
for washinge, did demand of the said Scrother
if he would on y:e behalfe of the said Noates
pay her a little money out of his the said Nootes
his//

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//his wages which was due unto her to ?which XX
hee replyed in these or the like words I shall
pay the wages to him that hath earned it &
soe let him pay you if hee will, and soe wished
the said Noates to goe on board the said vessell
soe that hee had not the least in imagination but
that hee would have duely payd him his said
monethly wages, and the said John Johnson
and John Joris doe by vertue of their oathes
respectively say and declare that they heard
Olyns Oruse the boatswayne desire leave
of him the said Scrother that hee might bee
cleared to goe home for Hamborough to
whome the said Scrother did make answer
in these or the like words, what are you weary
with gettinge of money if you were at home
you would soone after goe to sea agayne
therefore pray stay with mee or to that effecte
and would not free him soe that they did not
doubt that hee would duely have payd him and
alsoe these respondents their said monethly
wages iustly due unto them as they and
each of them belevieth.

To the fifth they and every of them answereth
and beleiveth that duringe the tyme that these
respondents did belonge to the said shippe
and about the moneth of March articulate
about sixe or seaven of the Clocke in the
morninge as the said Shippw was hauleinge
on shoare to be graXed & was ?turneinge
shee did by casualtye with a suddaine turne
doe some small dammadge to a house att
Shadwell with her Stearne which they could
not prevent notwithstandinge their uttmost
endeavours as they and every of them beleiveth
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//for repaireinge the said M:r did pay of allow
about nine or tenn shillings and not above
as they and every of them beeleeveth And
otherwise they nor either of them doth beleive
the said pused posicon to bee true in any
parte.

To the sixth they and every of them answereth
that the persons arlate doe belonge to the
said shippe but these respondents beinge not
present when they were agreed with to serve
in the said shippe doe not certainly know upon
what termes they are but they and every of them
beéeiveth that they expect and are to have
monethly wages as they and every of them
beleiveth and otherwise they nor either of them
doth beleive the said pused posicon to bee true
in any parte.

To the seaventh they and every of them
answereth that they nor either of them doth
beleive the same to bee true in any parte.

To the eighth they the said John Johnson
John Joris and Clement Nootes doe acknow-
ledge that dureinge the tyme articulate
these rendents by the consent & approbacon
of the said Scrother did helpe a Hollander to
put a new mast in his bessell for which they
had each of them 5:s: 6:d and noe more as they
and each of them beleiveth, and they the
said John Johnson and John Joris did alsoe
duringe the said tyme (by the especiall order
and direction of the said Scrother) helpe a
Hamburgher to heave in about 20 barrells
and some ballast out of which they had s:s a
peece and noe more given them. and otherwise
they nor either of them doth beleive the said
pused posicon to bee true in any parte.///

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//To the ninth they and every of them answereth
that they nor either of them doth beleive the said
pused posiscon to bee true in any parte.

To the tenth they and every of them answereth
that savinge their former answers they nor
either of them doth beleive the said posicon
to bee true in any parte.

JAN JANSEN [His signature]
JAN JONISSOHN [His signature]

The marke of
Clement C K Noots
The marke + of W:m Ridge

7 Julij: 1652
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Repeated before
dror Exton one
of y:e Judges x:r.

The further, and plainer Answeres of Thomas
Polding made to the pused positions
of an all:on or Libell given ag:t him on
the behalfe of William Beale heer
after named as followeth./

To the tenth arle of the said all:on he answereth
and beleeveth that he did with all convenient
speed (as wind, and weather would afford him
saile from Newhaven arlate to Limbricke[2]
without neglect, or losse of one ?honre as he
beleeveth, and did not XXX his said shipp into the harbour of
XXXmouth as is arlate, and otherwise he doth not beleeve
the said position to bee true in any part
thereof./

To the 14:th. he answereth, & beleeveth that the
weather was tempestuous, and the wind contrary
after this rendent came into the said river
of Limbricke so that he was five dayes
after he came into the said river before
he gott upp to the Key, and noe more as he
beleeveth the same being twenty one Leagues
as he beleeveth, and presently after the
said shipps comming upp to the said Key
the ?fror of the said Beale might have
sold the said mault, att very great rates
and good profitt the same being scarce
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//and severall persons being earnest, and
desicons to have the same, but the fror about
three, or fowre dayes after the said shipps
comming to the said Key tooke the said mault
out of the saud vessell into his owne custody
and possession, and disposed thereof att his
owne will, and pleasure, but for how much
he sold itt, or what he made thereof after
he had itt out this rendent was noe wayes
privie thereunto, & cannot further say, or
declare, nor doth other wise beleeve the said
petition to bee true in any part./

To the 21;th. & 22:th he answereth, and beleeveth, that
he this rendent did take in the quantity of about
seaventy tonns of goods for the acc:t of the
said Beale, & boe lesse, & did not refuse any
goods, that the said Beale his fror would lade
or putt aboard, and otherwise (saveing his
former answeres which he beleaveth to bee
true he doth not beleeve the said pused
positions, or either of them to bee true
in any part./

To the 29:th & lres therein mentioned he
answereth, and beleaveth that the Letters
arlate were sent by this rendent to the
said Beale, and otherwise saveing his former
answeres which he belaveth to bee true
he doth not beleeve the said psed
positions to bee true in any part./

To the 33:th. he answereth, and beleaveth
that every of the said hides were worth
and might have yeelded the time arlate
the summe of sixteene shillings & eight pence and
noe more, and every of the said tonns of
Tallow were worth the summe of 34:li y tonn
and noe more as he beleeveth, and he doth
beleeve that he did with all convenient speed
he could//

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//could hasten away with the said goods to
Newhaven arlate; and there deliver the same
to the said Beale, or his assignes, and otherwise
he doth not beleeve the said pused position
to bee true in any part/

To the 3?0:th. he answereth, that he doth not
beleeve there happened any losse, or dammage
to the said William Beale by any neglect, of
this rendent in the said voyadge, nor doth
beleeve the said prused position to bee true
in any part./

THOMAS POLD?AN [His signature]

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Case: Libell on the behalfe of Thomas Corbett: Personal Answers; Joshua ffowler, Merchant: Date: XXXX


Repeated be
fore S:r Exton
one of the
Judges x:r
DXX XXXX

The personall Answeares of Joshia ffowler
Merchant made to the posicons of a p:rtended
libell given and admitted against him on be-
halfe of Thomas Corbett doe followe.

To the first and second posicone hee answeareth and
for his part doeth nott beleeve the said posicons
to bee true in any parte saveinge his subsequent
Answeares,

To the third & severall posicons hee answeareth
and beleeveth that within the time arlate, this
Rendent received Twenty Bundles of Hempe
very much damaged and damnified which were
brought from the Port of Quinborough in the
East: land in the shippe the Elephant arlate,
and were there laden by John Berna?ed arlate
and consigned to this Rendent, And otherwise for
his parte hee doeth nott beleeve the said Posicons
to bee true in any part; saving that hee beleeveth
that the usuall ffreight of twenty Bundes of
hempe brought undamnified from Quinborowe
aforesaid to London is att thirty: two XXX in XXX last XX22:0:-:
and soe much is ususally paid:

To the ffifth posicon hee answeareth and acknow-
ledgeth the Requisicon arlate by this suite and
that hee refuseth payment for iust Cause
as hee beleeveth//


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//To the last posicon hee answeareth as hee hath
formerly answeared & beleeved, and otherwise
negatively

XXXX JOSHUA : FFOWLER [His signature]

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Case: Allegation made on the behalfe of ?Savery: Personal answers: Thomas May: Date: July 10th 1652


Repeated before
D:r Cllark one of
the Judges x:r

THE PERSONAL ANSWERS of
Thomas May made to the prsed
posicons of an allegation given
against him on the behalfe of
[BLANK IN ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPT] Savery as followeth.

To the first and second positions he answereth
and beleiveth that hee this respondent had upon
the day arlate (beinge the eighteenth day of
December 1651) his lighter called the
Mayflower fast moored in the river of
Thames beere lower Chalke wharfe about
halfe a mile from Gravesend over a certayne
caske that was there sunke in the said River
for y:e weighing up of Ordnance andIron
out of the said Shippe or Bark which said
lighter did (as hee beleiveth) lye neere two
stones throwe from y:e Kentish side and soe
farr from the Essex side that neere twenty
shipps on breast might in faire and good
weather (as he beleeveth) have passed by
without doeinge or receiveinge any dammage
and upon y:e Kentish side about foure shipps
might have passed on breast betweene y:e
shoare and the said lighter the river beinge
in that place (as he beleiveth) neere a mile
in breadth and the bancks of y:e river in and
about that place are soe absolutely steepe that
there is noe shelvinge nor wast ground as hee
hath observed and beleeveth and this respondent
did//

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//did generallye imploy seaven or eight men to
worke on board the said lighter for the wighing
of the said Ordnance and Iron and one
man constantly to bee and lye on board her
or soe neere on shoare that hee might bee
within sight of the said lighter and looke to
the same, and this respondent beleiveth the
said lighter did ride in such a place over the
said Barke where shipps did and might
usually passe unlesse they were of very great
burthen and the water lowe and they in
regard of the said Suncke vessell or racke
they could not passe without bery great
danger as he beleiveth and he beleiveth that
at the tyme when the said shippe, y:e Mary
runne against the said lighter there was not
any person on board, but those employed by this
respondent were gone on shoare to a house bery
neere the place where the said lighter did lye
where they had their dyet, and a good distance
before the said shippe came neere to the said
lighter some of the said persons employed upon y:e
same did see the said shippe and call to the
company thereof as he beleiveth wishinge
them to take heed of the said lighter as hee
beleeveth, yet notwithstandinge the company
of the same out of carelesnesse or wilfulnesse
as he beleiveth did ranne against the
said lighter & breake her from her Mooringes
though there was roome for twenty shipps
as aforesaid to have gon on the one side
& foure or five on the other all on breast
without doeinge or receivinge any dammadge
as hee beleeveth and did carry her away at
least two or three miles as hee beleiveth by
w:ch this rendent was very much damnified as
he beleiveth and otherwise he doth not beleeve the
said posicon to bee true in any parte.///


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//To the third hee answereth and beleiveth
that the said lighter was broken from her
mooreings in manner as aforesaid by the
default neglect & carlesnesse of the said
Cocque and company and otherwise savinge
his proceeding answers to which hee
referreth himselfe, which he beleeveth
to bee true hee doth not beleive the said
prsed posicon to bee true in any parte

To the 4::th and fifth he answereth & beleiveth
that the said cable and Anchor are foule
of and entangled with the racked vessell or
amongst the goods in the same and thos
respondent cannot possible acquire or gett
the same againe as he beleiveth and
otherwise hee doth not beleive the said pused
posicon to bee true in any parte.

To the sixth he answereth and beleiveth that
the said vessell beinge soe unhappily driven
from her mooreings aforesaid was not
gotten thither agayne or ever amended after
the sammadge aforesaid but was soone
after cast away which was cheifly occasioned
by reason of her being broken loose by the said
Cooque and company in manner aforesaid
as he beeliveth and otherwise doth not beleive
the same to bee true in any parte.

To the seaventh he answereth and beleiveth
that if the said Cable could have beene gotten
agayne the same might have beene amended
& spliced together agayne but it would have
beene the worse by neere 40:s as he beleiveth
& otherwise referringe himselfe to his answers
to y:e 4:.th & 5:th. which hee beleiveth to bee true hee
doth not beleeve the same to bee true in any
parte.

To y:e last he answereth that saveinge his former
answeres which he beleiveth to bee true hee doth
not beleive the same to bee true in any parte./

THO: MAY [His signature]

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Case: Allon in the name of Robert Carse of Warwicke late Lord High Admirall of England: Personal Answers: Captaine Thomas Johnson: Date: July 12th 1652


Repeated before
D:r Clerk one
of the Judges x:r

The psonall Answers of Captaine
Thomas Johnson made to the pre
tensed positions of a pused Allon
given against him in the name of
Robert Carse of Warwick late
Lord high Admirall of England as
followeth/.

To the first hee answereth and beleeveth that
the said Shippe the Thomas and Margaret
did some few daies before shee was sei
zed in the Downes by the revolted ffleet?e
come from North Yarmouth arlate
and was there stayed and forced to
XXXX the then Prince of Wales &
others in the revolted ffleete as hee be
leeveth And otherwise hee doeth not bee
leeve the said pused position to bee true
in any pte

To the second hee answereth and beleeveth
that at the time when the said vessell was
seized in the Downes hee this rendent
was onboard the Viceadmirall
or some other shipps in the said revolted
ffleete and did goe ?voluntarily into the
said ffleete as hee beleeveth and was
under their power as hee beleeveth but
the said vessell came into the Downes
the time aforesaid when shee was seized
by the said revolted ffleete without the
directions or knowledge of this respon
dent And otherwise hee doeth not beleeve
the said pused position to bee true in
any pte.///


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//To the third hee answereth and beleeveth
that after the said shippe was come into
the Downes as a foresaid shee was forced
to bee and remaine in the revolted
ffleete untill such time as the Company
thereof could get an opportunity to
escape away with her againe which
was this respondents directions to
them that they should doe with the XX
nest as hee beleeveth And otherwise
hee for his pte doeth not beleeve the
said pused position to bee true in any pt

To the 4:th hee answereth and beleeveth
that the said shipp was kept and
detained in the said ffleete by the
space of five or six monethes as he
beleeveth before she could make an
escape being for a great pt of that
time locked upp within the Bridge
at XXXXX shire that shee could not
possibly get away as hee bleaveth &
hee beleeveth that dureing most pt of
that time the arlate ?harby was onbord
the said vessell and was taken out of her
by Command of the Prince or some
other if the Commanders in regard
hee endeavoured to make an escape with
her as hee beleeveth And otherwise
saving his former Answers hee doeth
not beleeve the said position to bee true
in any pte

To the 5.:th hee answereth That after the
said shipp had beene soome few daies//

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//with the said revolted ffleete the certaine
time he doeth not now remember
shee was sent to Callico to carry some
of the Prince of Wales his ?Linnen
to bee washed as hee beleeveth and there
did or might some gentlemen goe there
in as hee beleeveth whoe did cause the
said vessell to goe and returne againe
to the said revolted ffleete as hee belee
veth and prevent the same from goeing
into any port in obedience to the Par-
liam:t: but afterwards the said vessell
did by the especiall order of this rendent
make an escape from the said ffleete
and saile into Dartmouth the same
being for the Parliam:t: and in obed:
ence to them as hee beleeveth And
otherwise hee doeth not beleeve the
same to bee true in any pte

To the last hee answereth that saveing
his former Answers hee doeth not
beleeve the same to bee tru in any
part/

THO: JOHNSON [His signature]

BIG GAP


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Case: Allegation on the behalfe of Abraham Reade and Thomas Wilson: Personal answeres: Nathaniel Jesson: Date : December 3rd 1652


//3:° Decemb.

Repeated before
D:ror Exton one
of y:e Judges x:r

XX C M.

The personal answeres of Nathaniell
Jesson made to the posicons of an allegacon
given in against him, on the behalfe of
Abraham Reade, and Thomas Wilson doe
followe./

To the first pretended posicon hee answeareth
and beleeveth that uppon the .38.;th daye of
Januarie .1651. arlate, the shippe the
Golden Lyon was seized upon in the river
arlate, by this rendents companye, ?alone
in his boate, sent out to that purpose by
vertue of his commission to seize any
shipps at Virginia, tradeing contrarye to
an Act of the third of October .1650./
And otherwise for his parte hee doeth not
beleeve the said posicon, to bee true in any
parte thereof./

To the second pretensed posicon hee answeareth
and beleeveth, that the shippe the Golden
 Lyon arlate, was taken upon a Tuesdaye,
 being the twenty eight of Januarie, And
otherwise for his parte; hee doth not beleeve
the said posicon to bee true in any èarte
thereof./

To the third pretensed posicon hee answeareth
and beleeveth that before the foresaid seizure
of the shippe the Golden Layon, arlate this
Rendent, and the said Reade, came into Virginia
and the arlate Wilsom came about two dayes
after them, into the baye there, And
this rendent beleeveth; that the arlate Reade
(and//


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//and this rendent, haveing intelligence of the
Golden Lyons being there; they both resolved to
goe to take her, whereupon the said Reade, told
this rendent, that incase hee this Rendent
would board the said Vessell, that then hee the
said Read, would laye her Corse her ?hanyd
whereunto this Rendent replyed, that in case
hee the said Reade, would soe assist the Rendent
then and in that case, and not otherwise hee
the said Reade; should have his proportionable
parte of the said shippe, and Ladeinge when
shee was adiudged for Prize, but at the tyme
of the discourse aforesaid, The said Thomas
Wilson, was not then present, nor his shipp
in sight, And otherwise, for his parte; hee doth
not beleeve ; the aid posicon, to bee true; in
any parte thereof./

To the fourth pretensed posiccon hee answeareth
that for his parte, saveinge his foresaide
answeare, hee doeth not beleeve the said
posicon to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the first pretended posicon hee answeareth
and otherwise for his parte hee doth not
beleeve the said posicon to bee true, in any
parte therof./

To the sixth pretended posicon hee answeareth
and beleeveth, that hee accepteth the contents
of the said posicon, soe sett forth as the same
doe make for him and not otherwise, And
beleeveth that this rendents shippe and the
other two shippes arlate, did meete togeather
(on//

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//on Tuesday, about tenn of the Clocke, but this
rendent beleeveth the shippe the Golden Lyon
and ther ladeinge were surprized and taken by
this rendents Companye that day in the morninge
about eight or nyne of the Clocke, but then
unknowne to this rendent, And this rendent
beleeveth, that wednesdaye being the next
daye after, about three or foure of the clocke
in the morning, hee this rendent and the
other two shipps weighed Anchor & went
with a resolution to take and surprize the
said shippe the Golden Lyon and her Ladeinge,
but this Rendent denieth, that there was
any other or further agreement, than what
this Rendent, hath formerlye confeesed,
concerninge the takeinge of the said shippe
made betwixt this Rendent, and the arlate
Reade and Wilson, And otherwise for his
parte hee doeth not beleeve the said posicon
to bee true in any part thereof./

To the seaveth (sic) pretensed posicon hee answeareth
and accepteth the contents of the said posicon
soe farr as the same doe make for him, and
not otherwise, And beleeveth that the wynd
and tyde not serveing , the said three shipps
came to an Anchor agayne upon wednesday
about one of Clocke, and imediatlye after that
there was newes brought to this Rendent
that the Companye. sent out by him in his
boate; had surprized the said Vessell where-
upon this rendent gave notice thereof to the
said Reade and Wilson, or one of them, as
hee beleeveth, and there upon this rendent
beleeveth, the said Reade and Wilson weighted
Anchor//


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//Anchor, and went backe agayne, And this rendent
beleeveth, that from the tyme of theire casting
Anchor, on wednesday about twelve or one of
the Clocke . untill the tyme of theire weigheing
Anchor agayne: the Golden Lyon laye in sight
of the said three shipps, and the Companoes
of each shipps might see each other, And
otherwise for his parte hee doeth not beleeve
the said posicon to bee true in any parte
thereof./

To the eighth pretended posicon hee answeareth
and beleeveth; that at such tyme; as all the
ships arlate; were mett togeather. the com-
panye of the Golden Lyon, did disperse them-
selves, some aboard everie of the said shipps
viz:t; Captayne Reades, Captayne Wilsons

and this Rendents shipps, and alsoe onboard
severall other shipps, as they thought fitt,
And otherwise for his partem, hee doeth not
beleeve the said posicon to bee true in any
parte thereof;/

To the ninth pretensed posicon hee answareth
and beleeveth that the said Read & Wilson
comeinge on board the shippe the Golden Lyon
after this rendent was possessed of her
and findeinge certayne barrells of powder
in her, which they pretended they had neede
of, for theire shippes use, desired this rendent
to furnishe them with some of them for theire
shipps necessities, w:ch this rendent at their
intreaties, did furnish each of them with two
barrells, and alsoe one Holland Cheese,
(a peece//

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//a peece And otherwise for his parte hee doeth
not beleeve the said posicon to bee true in
any parte thereof.

To the tenth pretensed posicon hee answereth
that for his parte hee doeth not beleeve the
said posicon to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the .13:th pretended posicon hee answareth
that this Rendents Companye, had not
his said Commission granted to him on board the
said boate, nor any other order in
writeinge, but this rendent beleeveth they
had order. from him by word of mouth to seize
the said shippe , and were sent by him to that
purpose, And otherwise for his pte hee
doeth not beleeve the said posicon to bee true
in any parte thereof./

To the : 14.:th pretended posicon hee answeareth
and accepteth the contents, of the said posicon
and beleeveth that the tyme arlate, there
were two other shippes seized by the said
Reades and Wilsons shippes, And otherwise
for his parte hee doth not beleeve the saide
posicon to bee true in any pte thereof./

To the .15:th pretended posicon hee answeareth
that for his parte hee doeth not beleeve the
said posicon to bee true in any pte thereof:/

To y:e ii (sic) pretended posicon he answereth and
beleeveth that y:e shippe y:e Golden Lyon was
and is of the burthen of two hundred tonns
and upwards and had belongeinge to her
about 27 men which this rendent tooke
her about fifteene whereof were then on
board her but most of them in y.e said shipps
hould//


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//hould, and by y:e XXX betwixt the decks
and she had about fifteene gunns mounted
the time aforesaid, and had alsoe divers
Armes musketts and ammunition on board
her, And otherwise for his parte hee doth
not beleeve the said posicon to bee true
in any parte thereof.

To y:e 12:th prestended posicon hee
answereth and beleeveth that the boate
sent by this respondent to surprize the
shippe y:e Golden Lyon had in her ii men
of this rendents company and noe
more and this rendent beleeveth they
sid surpprize the said shippe the Golden
 Lyon and her company when the
 Company which were onboard her
were some in the hould and the rest
betwixt y:e decks, And other wise for
his parte he doeth not beleeve the
said posicon to bee true in any parte
thereof.

NATH: JESSON [His signature]

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  1. ↑ Havre de Grace. Le Havre. See wikipedia entry on Le Havre, viewed 19/05/12
  2. ↑ Limbrick. Alias Limerick

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