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The Admiralty Court also recognised the status of the producents as Armenians, titlng the HCA claim as "The claime of Cogia Jacomo and Cogia Kaniar Armenian Marchants for their goods in the shipp the Saint Martin whereof Michael Audric was Captaine".<ref>[Electronic link to a digital source HCA 13/65 f.53v P1170481]</ref> Interestingly, their status as Armenians is used to define them, rather than the more usual reference in such case titles to individuals being of a certain town and country. | The Admiralty Court also recognised the status of the producents as Armenians, titlng the HCA claim as "The claime of Cogia Jacomo and Cogia Kaniar Armenian Marchants for their goods in the shipp the Saint Martin whereof Michael Audric was Captaine".<ref>[Electronic link to a digital source HCA 13/65 f.53v P1170481]</ref> Interestingly, their status as Armenians is used to define them, rather than the more usual reference in such case titles to individuals being of a certain town and country. | ||
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It is interesting to compare this Court's descriptive treatment of Armenians with its descriptive treatment of Jews resident in the United Netherlands and elsewhere. ADD TEXT | It is interesting to compare this Court's descriptive treatment of Armenians with its descriptive treatment of Jews resident in the United Netherlands and elsewhere. ADD TEXT | ||
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Concept of 'Ethnicity': did it exist?
Armenians
Hojar Sefer was described in a series of HCA depositions made in 1651 as a merchant of Spahan (sometimes spelled as Spaham or Spaheim). He described himself in one of his depositions as "a Persian borne in the Dominion of the kinge of Persia and there dwelleth", but it is clear that he regarded himself as Armenian as well as Persian.
Certainly her recognised his fellow merchants, the producents of the case, with whom he had been travelling, as "Armenians". He stated, for example, that "the said producents were and are Armenians and Inhabitants of Smirna, and subiects of the Grand Seignor or Turkish Emperour.."[2].
The Admiralty Court also recognised the status of the producents as Armenians, titlng the HCA claim as "The claime of Cogia Jacomo and Cogia Kaniar Armenian Marchants for their goods in the shipp the Saint Martin whereof Michael Audric was Captaine".[3] Interestingly, their status as Armenians is used to define them, rather than the more usual reference in such case titles to individuals being of a certain town and country.
Jews
It is interesting to compare this Court's descriptive treatment of Armenians with its descriptive treatment of Jews resident in the United Netherlands and elsewhere. ADD TEXT
Moslems
Merchant identity as a special case?
The distance and frequency of the travel of a number of the merchants revealed in HCA depositions in the 1650s never ceases to surprise the modern reader.
For example, a twenty-eight year old bachelor and merchant of the free city of Aken (Aachen, or Aix-la-chapelle), who was born in Aken, but left at the age of fifteen for France, where he dwelled for four years, before embarking on further travels. This is how he described his life and travels, in response to an interrogatory regarding his and others goods on the XXXX, which had been seized by the Parliaments ships off XXX en route from ffarnambuco in Brazila to Rotterdam:
Net indebtedness as a source of status?
"'Worth more than hee oweth'"
- "Hee cometh requested by Mr Southwood to testifie the truth of his knowledge in this cause for which hee neither hath receaved or Expecteth to receave any consideration save only for his losse of tyme but who must pay him for that hee hee yet knoweth not And saith hee is worth more than hee oweth And liveth in kingstreete in Stepney parishe where hee hath lived by the space of about three yeares and before that dwelt neere the Hermitage and in the parishe of Saint Catherine and getteth his liveing by unladeing of shipps which deliver theire ladeing in the River of Thames and saith hee is a howse=keeper and payeth all manner of dutyes and Taxes which are usually levied either for Church Poore, or the Army according as hee is assessed"[4]
Significance of being a househoulder?
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- ↑ [Electronic link to a digital source HCA 13/65 f.59r P1170492]
- ↑ [Electronic link to a digital source HCA 13/65 f.53v P1170481]
- ↑ [HCA 13/65 f.N/A P1180459]
