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HCA 23/19 Interrogatories 1658-64



P1100662

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Case: XXXX


P1100663

//Interria ministrat et ministrand ex parte et per partem Illustris
Sini principis Jacobi DXXX Eboras et Albanne xr Dm : mag in
Admiralli Angli testis, quibustung, ex parte et per partem
MXXthatlis dreist, Samuelis Poplot et seriord quoad Navem the
Nativity, of Johis Eastman et al pro bonis in eadem seizit pro
Durt, sen producend sequirit.

1. Let every wittnesse bee asked whether hee was in the shippe
The Nativity when shee began her last voyage and from
What port was shee sett out when she was bound for Oporto Port
& what Lading did shee carry thither & to whence was itt
Delivered, And howe long hath the said wittnesse belonged to
The said shippe, and what Office had hee in her, Ad interr
Con:m et dX:m ar de quolibet

2. I :m interrr, Whether was hee in the shippe, when shee was seized
(as is prtended) by one Captaine ?Colarte, and was hee alsoe in the said
Shippe, when shee was stayed neere ffalmouth, or howe long
Since, and att or neere what place did hee leave the said shippe
And lett him declare upon his Oath when and whenre hee last sawe
The said shippe and howe hee doth knowe her to bee the same
That belonged (as is p:rtended) to Michael ?Alweist, Samuel RXXXX
And Company, And lett itt bee done as above.

3. Lett him bee asked, whether hee the said witnesse had any parte
Or share in the said shippe the Nativity or in any part of the
Goods or lading, and whether Michael Dweist a witnesse pro
Duced in this Cause bee the same partie where in this Cause
Is a Clayment of parte of the shippe Et fiat ut sup:r

4. Itmm: interr. When had the Claymers or the mittnesse first
Notice that the shippe Nativity was stayed neere ffalmouth
Howe long time was there betweene the seizure made by Colarte
And the saty of the said shippe made neere ffalmouth and
Whether in that time, was nott the said shippe used and imploy
Ed as a shippe of Warre by those that had her then in possession
And whether one Michell and his Company did nott with the
Said shippe Nativity take and seize some other shippes and
Goods , and XXXX many shippes and what sorts or quantities of
Goods Et fiat at sup:X

5. Itmm: interr. Howe sooth hee knowe that the said Michael
Dweist and the other Clayments are Owners of the said shippe
Did they build itt, or buy itt, When and where was itt bought
& paid for, Is the wittnesse in the cause a witnesse to the
Bill of sale made of the said shippe or was p:rsent att the
Buying, or howe else doth hee knowe the Propreto:rs. Ex parte
His Reason. Et fiat ut sup:a//



P1100663

//6. Itmm : interr. Whether did the partie that prormed the GXXX
Or deputy of S:t Manes Castle, or did any other on his behalfe
Agree with the said Governo:r or deputy to give him satisfact
Tion for his paines & Charges that hee should nee att, as
Stay of the said shippe, And what satisfaction hath been
Given or is promised for the same; Et fiat at sup:a.

7. Itmm:interr, Whether Before the said shippe Nativity
was stayed neere ffalmouth had nott they whoe were in
possession of her beene by the space of 1. 3. 5. Or more monthes
weeks, or daies sailing and ?roaving up and ddowne in the
English Channell and used and imployed the said shippe as
a Man of warre to take pXXXXX, And within that time in
and with the said shippe had nott Michell p:rtending hm
-selfe Captaine thereof, and the Company of the said shuppe
taken & dubdued & gott into theire possession some other shippe
or shippes & goods , and spoiled the Right Owners thereof
att least had indeavoured soe to doe, and were aiding abetting
or assistant to the Commander & Company of some other shippe
whoe seized and made spoile as aforesaid Et fiat ut supp.

8. Itmm: interr Whether Immediately before the said shippe was
tayed neere ffalmouth was shee nott chased by a dutch man
of Warre or some other shippe upon the seas neere the Coast
of Cornwall on the West of ffalmouth and Pendennis, or S:t
Manes Castle, And did nott the shippe Nativity flee from the
Said other shippe, and in her flight might shee nott have made
Pendennis or S:t Manes Castle or ffalmouth harbo:r her Refuge
And have beene there surrXXed XX the Commander and Comp
-any of the Nativity had beene true men & friends, And yett did
They nott shun and avoide the said Castle & harbo:r and run their
Shippe aground a league or thereabouts to the Eastward of the
Said castle, And lett itt bee done as above.

9. Itmm: interr. Whether when the said shippe was soe stayed neere
Ffalmouth, was nott the said Michell or hee that was the then re
Puted Commander of the shippe Nativity and his Company or
Some of them examined howe they came by the said shippe &
The goods in her and howe long they had beene in possession
Thereof or to such effect, and did they nott then answeare that
The same were taken att Sea from a dutchman or hollander
Some monethes or weekes then next before, and doe nott you knowe
That the said Michell & Company did nott, nor cold then pro-
-duce any Commission to warrant the taking of the said shippe
Or goods, And lett itt bee done as above.

10. Itmm Lett him bee asked Whether att the time when the said Nativity
Was stayed neere ffalmouth and seized to the use of his Royall
Highness the Lord High Admirall aforesaid by his Officers and//



P1100665

//Ministers and whilest they remayned aboard the said shippe, did
nott the Commander and Company of the said shippe designe &
contrive and indeavo:r to blowe the said shippe up with Gunpowder
and were there nott severall Barrells of Gunpowder n the said
shippe, opened & prepareed by the Commander & Company of
her for that purpose, And have yo:u nott heard & beleeve that they
would have soe done if they had nott beene timely discovered
and prevented, Et fiat ut sup:a

11. Itmm interr. What Colo;es did Captaine Colartes shippe weare
att the time when (as itt is p:rtended) shee seized the Nativity
did shee weare the Swedish, or hwat other Colo:es and did nott
the shippe the Nativity ware the Holland Colo:es or what
colo:es did she ware or had shee nott the holland colo:es
aboard her declare the trueth, Et fiat ut sup:a

12. Itmm. Interr. Whether the sd shipp ethe Nativity when (as itt
is p:rtended) shee was seized by Captaine Colarte was nott
she seized in the English Channell and in sight of land, Et
fiat ut sup:a



Case: ex Parte Thoma Breton Abrahami Sayon Johis Godschall Edidy Thomas

P1100762

//INTERROGATORIA ministrand a ex
Parte Thoma Breton[1] Abrahami Sayon[2]
Johis Godschall[3] Edidy
Thomas, et seriorum M:rcatorum Anglirosa
Quoad bona in navem quandum corat the
Oporto M:chant (?Cujus Elias drew fuit
Madd) XXXXta jup quibus p:tunt testes
Examinat ad perpetuain XXXmoriam
Sequintur vizt.

1. IMPRIMIS Interr quitebet whether doe you know
Or have seene the said shippe called the Oporto
Merchant, whether doe you not know or howe heared
That the said Elias Drew was the Master of
The said shippe and the Owners of the said
Shippe were, and are English men and subjects
Of our Soveraigne Lord King Charles the second
And that the said shippe in the monethes of
Jan:ry and ffeb:ry 1662 (English style) and for
Some time before and after and at the time of
The seizing of the said shippe and her lading by
The subjects of the King of Spaine doe
Belong unto the port of Londona nd that the said
Shippe was upon and at the time of her departure
From this Port of London upon the voyage to
Lizboa of the Burthen of one hundred and eighty
Tunnes or thereabouts declare what you know
Beleive or have heard to this purpose Et interr
XXXX divs et de quolibel.

2. ITEM Interr quilibel whether doe you XXX know or
Have heard that the said Thomas Breton
Abraham Sayon John Godschall
And//



P1100763

//and Giles Travers or some of them did by Charter party
25:th of ffeby 1661 take the said shippe the Oporto Merchant
To freight of John ?Pill and Rowland XXXX
M:rchants owners of the said shippe for a voyage to be
Made with the said shippe from this port
To Lisboa and from thence to the XXXX
Or any other place within the straights of Gibraltar
Being in ffriendshipp with the King of England
In such manner as XX the Charter parties
For the said voyage is conteined declared and
Know beleive or have heard to this purpose
Real XXXXX.

3. ITEM Interr quilibet whether doe you XX knowe



Case: XXXX: Document: Charterparty for Opporto Merchant of London


P1100772

IN THE NAME OF GOD AMEN this Charterparty indented of a freightment made the Eight &
Our soveraigne Lord Charles the second by the grace of God King of England and Scotland ffrance and Ireland defender
Merchants owners of the good ship called the OPPORTO MERCHANT OF LONDON of the burthen of one hundred and Eight
Thames within the port of the Citty of London (of which ship Elias ?Drew Mariner is Master)
Breton Abrham Sayon Andrew Midleton John ?Goosthall GilesXXavervband Nichols Vanaker of London
The said owners have granted and letten to freight the said ship unto the said Merchants by the
Certaine from the departure of the said ship from Gravesend outwards
At and for the rate and price of one hundred and thirty and eight
The Calendar and for such and solongtime after the said
Factors or assignes to keepe the said ship in their service
Of England p month and soeafter the
And hired the same ship for a voyage with her to be made by Gods blessing in manner and forme following (that is to say
Administrators doe covenant grant and free to and with the said merchants theri executors and administrators by the
And next faire winds and weather that God shall send after ffoure and twenty houres notice given to the master
Gravesend with such goods and merchandizes as the said merchants their factors or assigne sof XXXX
May reasonably carry and ?store in her over & above her victuall tackle and apparell after her arrivall there shall after she shall be cleared at Gravesend & y;e XXXX with the first fair XXXX weather then XXXX happens
The perils and dangers of the seas excepted saile unto Lisboa in the Kingdom of Portugall there to discharge the goods and merchandizes carried
In her thither and being then dispatched shall directly saile from thence to the ?Madera Islands XX
The straights of Gibraltar being in league of friendship with the King of England here she may
Directed by the said merchants to their factors and assignes to saile unto to receive & take into her her freight
Said merchants thero factors ?or assignes shall lade & put aboard her so as she may reasonably XXX
Apparell as aforesaid and being XXXX from her last port of employment abroad shall by Gods
& the perills & dangers of the setting XXX saile is XXX & come backe into the said port of the XXX
Arrive thereat an anchor to make discharge and and of her said intended voyage AND the said
Doe iointly and severally covenant grant & agree to and with y:e said owners to
And directtion to the master of the sd ship for
The streights of Gibraktar inamity with England where she may safely arrive



Case: Willia, Curtis, Thomas Hussey, Samuel Harvar(d): Interrogatory


P1100799

//INTERRA MINISTRANDA ex pts
William Curtis Testibus oibus, et
singulis ex pte Thoma Hussey[4],
Samuelis Harwar[5] et serior con en
utruq:r p:rduct et p:ducent Sequuntur
viz:t

1. IMPRIMIS Exponatur Civitibi Testi perXXculu
et prba Testis falsdii, et tum inter de XX atate,
sonducone mora et orta XXXX, Et quamdin novit ptes
in humoi Caa litigands Et Interr Con:m div:m et de
quatibi.

2. ITEM Inter quilibi Whether were you any of
the Company of the Shipp the May fflower[6]
mencconed on the Allegaccon whereupon you are
examined, if yea whether were you areofficer of
the said shipp or a Common marriner if an
officer what office did you beare in the said
Shippe Et fiat et supra.

2. Item Inter quilibi Whether doe you not know,
beleive, or have credibly heard reported That at the
tyme of the makeinge of the Charter Partie mencconed
in the Allegaccon whereupon you are examined
and alsoe some tyme before and at the tyme That
the said Willm Curtis was by the said Thomas
Hussex William HaXXXXard and Companie
appointed master and Commander of the said shipp
the May fflower, the said Thomas Hussey,
William Harvard and Companie or some of them
did know, and take notice of, That the said William
Curtis was ymployed by and in the Service of the
East India Company & that he was untertXXXXX
XXXX//



P1100800

//into and in the Service of the East India
Companie before he was master of the sd
Shipp the May fflower & that the said XX
Hussey, Samuel Harward and Companie XX
soe much at the tyme of the said makeing of y:e
said Charter Partie nor did take any off
exception at all to the same but were content
therewith. Declare what you know, beleive, and
heard to this purpose: Et fiat et sapra.

4. Item Inter Quilibi Whether doe you ?know
have credibly heard what daie of the moneth
what yeare of our Lord the said Shipp the May
fflower was dispatched and cleared at Madras ?by
factors and Agents of the East=India Companie XX
Madras upon her voyage homewards for England if
yea, expressed the precise day of the moneth and
what yeare of our Lord it was, whoe by name
the Cheife ffactor and Agent of the East India
Companie at Madras the tyme when the XXX
was dispatched from thence and had the CXXXX
Cheife of the officers of the East India Companie
Et fiat ut supra.

5. ITEM Interr quilib Whether doe you
What pXXXX and Custome XX
the moneth and in what yeare of our Lord XX
shipp Mary Gold mencconed in the sd XXX
whereupon you are examined did depart and
saile from Madras if yea expresse the XXXX
day of the moneth and what yeare the sd
Mary Gold sett saile from Madras. WhXXXXXX//



P1100801

6. ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you not
know, beleive, or have Credibly heard That from, &
continually after the tyme that the said shipp
the Mary Gold did saile from Madras the
voyage in Question untill the 29:th day of
January 1659 about XXXX the wind was
sent XXXdly and the Streame did constantly
comme to XXX Northward, soe as both the wind &
Streame duringe the said tyme were both
contrary to the said shipp the Mary Gold,
to her Comeinge for England & that she did
not nor could duringe the said tyme advance, or
make any proresse ?foward in her course for
England, and that two daies after her departinge
from Madras she was seene off from thence and
observed to have made noe advance or progresse for
England. Declare what you know, beleive, or have
heard to this purpose Et fiat ut surpra.

7. Item Interr quilibi Whether doe you not know,
beleive, or have Credibly heard reported. That
Thomas Chamber[7] whoe was Cheife Agent
for the East India Company at Madras in, &
dureinge the monethes of December and
January 1659 and for some tyme before and
after did not, did not, nor would dispatch the
said Captaine Curtis from thence ?give him
his dispatched soe as he might be in a
Capacity to sett saile from thence untill the
29:th of January 1659//



P1100802



P1100803



P1100804



P1100805



P1100806

//the same were and are and soe usually have
beene Accustomed to be carried aboard the
Shipps there in the Service of the East
India Companie by the boates of the
County there. Declare what you
know beleive or have heard to this purpose. Et
fiat ut supra

12. Item Inter quilibt Whether doe you not
know, beleive, or have heard reported That
by the meanes and default of the said Agent
and for want of the said boates some of the
said provisions were not, nor could be gott
aboard the said shipp untill the 28:th of
January 1659 and that upon the 24:th and 25:th
of january 1659 there was not water and
other provisions aboard the said Shipp
sufficient for the companie of the said Shipp
in her voyage for England & that without
the same the said Shipp could not, nor was
in a Capacity to saile if the wind had beene
then faire as in truth it was not. Declare
what you know, beleive, or have heard to this
purpose. Et fiat ut supra.

14. Item Inter quilib Whether doe you not
know//



P1100807

//know beleive, or have heard reported that the
May fflower before her arrivall at Madras
the voyage in Question did Come fromMeslepatan for Madras & that being XX
with goods she was dispatched from XXXX
for madras by W;m Johnson Cheife XXXX
for the East India Companie there, upon y:e
14:th of January 1659 and not before & XX
soe soome as ever the said Shipp was XXX
from thence the said 14:th of January 1659
the said Captaine Curtis did upn the
14:th of January 1659 sett saile with y:e
said Shipp from Mesloputan for Madras
and arrived there with the said Shipp &
goods in her upon the 25:th of January 1659
then the said Goods brought thither in the
said Shipp were unladed out of her XX
expedicionne That the said Captaine Curtis &
his Company Could make or that the Agent XX
the Company there Could prmitt & XXX
sent the boates for the same the XXXX
were with all Diligence unladed out of the
said Shipp & that it was the 24:th or 25:th of
January 1659 before the last of the goods//



P1100808

//there were unladed out of the said Shipp
and whether were not you the wittnesse
ymployedd in the unladinge of the said goods
out of the said shipp there, and did your
diligence therein. Et fiat ut supra.

15. Item Inter quilibi Whether did not the
said Captaine Curtis after his dispatch
at Mesloputan make all spaces he could
from thence for Madras & that the said
voyage from Meslepatan to Madras was
furnished in in, and with the said Shipp
May fflower in as soone a tyme as wind &
weather did, or could prmitt from her
departure from Mesleputan for Madras
aforesaid & that there was noe default at all
in the said Captaine Curtis therein &
whether have not you the wittnesse said, &
affirmed soe much. Et fiat ut supra

16. Item Inter quilibi Whether doe you not
know, beleive, or have heard reported that
after the arrivall of the said shipp at Madras
from Mesleputain as aforesaid the said Capt
Curtis did by himselfe and other sby him
ymployed write, p:suafe and importance the
said//



P1100809

//said Thomas Chamber the said Agent
of the said Companie at Madras to XXX
away the said Shipp form thence &
he the said Captaine Curtis used all his Diligence therein & that he
was in noe default at all therein & XXX
notwithstandinge he could not procure
obtaine his disptaches from the sad
Agent untlll the 29:th of January 1659
whether hand not you the wittnesse before
examined as a wittnesse touchinge this pXXX
and have XXXed upo youre oath that the
Agents if the East India Company XXX
Mesleputan and Madras were in default
that the said Shipp was not sooner XXX
at Mesleputan and Madras and that XXX
deteyned and kept thereby by the Agent of
the said Companies, & she saith Cap:t XXX
was in noe default at all therein. Discover
what you know, beleive or have heard to the
purpose. Et fiat ut supra.

17. ITEM Interr Quilibb Whether XXX
not know, beleive, or have heard XXX
That upon the 29:th of January 1658 x:r
as the wind came fXXXX a sett to XXX XXX//



P110810

//after the said Captaine Curtis had recd
his dispatches at Madras from the said
Thomas Chamber the Agent there, he
the said William Curtis did not upon the
29:th of january 1659 in the eveninge of the
said day, the wind then & not before next
after his said dispatches cominge faire, did
sett saile with the said shipp from Madras
for England & did proceed upon his voyage
homeward for England and did not deviate at
all but used the best meanes he couldand as the
wind and weather would pmitt to steere &
keep the course of the said shipp for
England. Declare the truth herein. Et fiat ut
supra.

18. Item Inter quilibi Whether did you not
know That in the course of the said shipp
homewards and upon, or about the 12:th of
Aprill 16660 the M:r and Companie of the
said shipp or some of them did ?espye the
Land of Cape La Gulis beinge about 60, or 70
Leagues ti the Eastward of it. Declare the
truth herein.  ?Ut fiat et supra

19. Item Interr quilibi whether doe you not
know//



P1100811

//know that the course of the said shipp
from Madras for England thesaid XXX
mett with severall violent stormes and
Tempests viz:t one violent storm, or
Tempest the 23:th of ffebruary 1659 at ?a
Latitude about eight degrees and 44 minutes
Another great and violent storme or
Tempest upon the 10:th of Aprill 1660 thXX
blowinge then at Northwest, & that the last
named storme was a most furious and XXX
storme, & that the fury and violence of it
continued for about 48 houres togeather
that within an houre, or some short tyme
next after the beginning thereof the
shipp was brought from a Top Gallan XX
to a maXXXX course two thirds of the XXX
high & that by the violence of storme and
Tempest the ?knee of the said shippe XX
was loose, & that the shipp did there XXX
three great seas & that by some of the XX
some one of the companie were washed
overboard. Declare what you know beleive, &
have heard to this purpose. Et fiat ?ut
supra.
20. Item//



P1100812

//20. Item Inter quilib Whether doe you not
know, beleiv, or have heard reported That
the said shipp the May fflower was
at her goeinge out of England upon the said
voyage in question an old shipp being about
the Age of thirteen or fourteen yeers old
and that by the said stormes and Tempests
and especially by the said storme which
happened upon the said 13:th of Aprill 1660
the said shipp was soe shakena & beaten,
& that duringe the tyme of the said last
mentioned storme the M:r and companie
were all likely to have perished in the sea
togeather with the said shipp and her
laddinge and that did use all their best
uttmost endeavours to p:rserve the said shipp
and her ladeinge, & that by Gods Blessinge
upon their enddavours (sic), the said shipp
and her ladeinge were then preserved. declare the
truth herein. Et fiat ut supra.

21. Item Inter quilib Whether during the
tyme of the said last mencconed storme
doid not the M:r and Companie of the said
shipp in order, and at the most probable way
to//



P1100813

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P1100814

//to preserve the said shipp and her
Ladeinge, and their lives which otherwise
were in manifest and apparent danger ?to
be lost, resolve to, and accordingly XXX
from the weather which the said ship
for the Island of S:t Laurance with XXXof the storme continued as it did to goe ?to
Laurance or otherwise if the storme XXXX
to play homeward for England. Declare what
you know beleive, or have heard to this purpose
Et fiat ?ut supra.

22. Item Interr quilib Whether foe you XX
know that the said storme which began
upon the said 13:th of Aprill did XXX
more, or lesse untill beyond the first day
of May next following, & that upon the 23:th of April
the said storme beganne to be very fXXX
violent againe, & that by meanes of the ?said
storme?s the said shipp was soe XX
and broken as that she was not able, XXX
to come to England, & that she was XXX
adjudged and deemed to be by the ?Companie
of the said shipp, & that the ?Companie
of the said shipp did not, nor ?would
?not//



P1100815

//venter their lives in the
said shipp home for England that
condiccon she then was in, & whether were
not you one of them whoe did judge & deeme
the said shipp unfitt and unable to come
for England after the said stormes had
happened unto her as aforesaid. Declare
what you know, beleive, or have heard to
this purpose. Et fiat ut supra.

23. ITem Interr quilibi Whether after the
said stormes had happened as aforesaid
did not the said Cap:t Curtis out of a
desire that he might doe that which might
be most advantagious for the owners of
the shipp and for the preservinge of
the said shipp and Ladinge, and lives
of the company, and ?make to severall
consultacons aboard the said shipp viz:t
The one the 29:th of Aprill 1660 and the
other the fifth day of may 1660 & whether
by a Generall Agreement and request of
all officers and Companie of the said
shipp was it not agreed upon the ?fifth of may
1660//



P1100816

//1660 upon mature deliberaccon That the
shipp should beare away for S:t ?Lawrence
as beinge the most convenoent and XXX
way and the best and most expedient XXX
that could be taken for the preservation
of the said shipp and leadeinge & the
lives of the Master and company XX
Et fiat ut supra.

24. Item Interr Quilib Whether is XX
first schedule hereunto annexed the XXX
soe taken aboard the said shipp the
29:th of Aorill 1660 and the said first of
May 1660, & whether the severall ?subscriptions
of the names of Willm Curtis, John XXXX,
John Stratford, John Martin ffXXXX
barrett and John Willett severally XX
subscribed thereunto were not, and are
severally and respectively subscribed XX
the prXy hand writinge of the said ?Willm
Curtis master and commander of the
shipp, John PXXte Cheife mate of the
said shipp, John Stratford Purser of
the said shipp, John Martin MXXXX
XXX//



P1100817

//mate and Gunner of the said shipp
ffrancis Barrett Carpenter of the said
shipp, John Willett Boatswaine of the
said shipp & whether is not your name
subscribed thereunto and are not you one of
the psons whose name is subscribed thereunto
And whether were not and are the
Contents of the said schedule true & whether
were not the said severall subscriptions wrote
at, or about the tyme and tymes of the
schedules dates severally named in the
said first schedule aboard the said shipp.
Et fiat ut supra.

25. ITEM Inter quilibi Whether was not &
is the second second (sic) schedule hereunto
annexed ?severally subscribed with the
hands and marks of all the Companie of
the said shipp and whether was not the
same severally subscribed aboard the said
shipp by the severall psons thereunder
names at, or about the tyme of the date of
the said second schedule beinge the 20:th of
May.//



P1100818

//May 1660, & whwther did you the ?witnesse
then putt your name thereunto. Et fiat ?ut
supra.

26. Item Inter quilibi Whether doe you
know beleive, or have heard reported That the
shipp the Mary Gold named in the AXXX
whereupon you are examined was in the
monethes of January and ffebruary 1660
at the tyme when the said stormes XX
named happened a tight and strong ?shipp
and that the said shipp the Mary Gold
was in the said stormes which happened
to the said shipp the May fflower XX
the storme that happened upon the said
thirteenth of April 1660 and that the XX
shipp the Mary Gold beinge a strong
stXXXX, and new shipp was better able to
indure the said storme than the said XXX
the May fflower was Declare what you XXX
beleive, or have heard to this purpose Et
fiat ut supra.

27. Item Inter quilibi whether doe you
?beleive//



P1100819

//beleive, or have heard reported that duringe
the tyme the said shipp the may fflower
was in India the voyage in Question &
before she came to Madras, upon her
voyage homeward bound the said
shipp to be fower tymes graXXed viz:t at
Gombroone, Mesleputan, Achein, and Mesleputan againe & all charges that
were needfull to be donne unto her as to
repairinge, or otherwise to be amended
that he did not omitt any thinge therein
that belonge unto his place as M:r of the
said shipp. Declare the truth herein. Et
fiat it supra.

28. Item Inter quilibi et pra?fertim Johes
harte Whether doe you not know That the
said shipp the May fflower at the tyme
of her cominge from Madras for England
the voyage in question was full of the goods
of the East India Companie in the hold
and whether did not you the wittnesse helpe
to store the same and whether did not the
said//



P1100820

//said William Curtis receive all such goods XX
the said shipp as the XXX of the said
Companie would and did lade there Declare
the trith herein. Et fiat ut supra.

25. Item Inter quilibi Whether after the
arrivall of the said shipp at S:t Lawrance
being the 29:th of may 1660 did not the
Master and Companie of the said XXX
during the tyme of the said Shippes being
there did imploye themselves in
cuttinge of wood and timber for, and makeinge ?provision
for the said shipp and did not stay XX
any longer than they were necessarily XXX
thereunto, & that the same was the best and
fittest place for the said shipp to stay
and most convenient for the Owners XXX
Cheapnesse untill the said shipp ?mXXXX
fitted for Surratt, Beefe being XXX
of S:t Laurence for XX
Copper ware of little, or noe vallue, and
beinge at other places where the said ?Shipp
must have Victualled, sold sold (sic) for XXX
XXX//



P1100821

//money, and at deare rates, & that as
soone as the season was fitt to goe to Surratt
the said shipp did sett saile from thence
and did not staye there any tyme longer
?then was fitt and convenient. Declare
the truth herein. t fiat ut supra.

30 Item Inter quilibi Whether doe you not
know That at the tyme mencconed in the
15:th Arle of the said Allegaccon, That the piggs of silver and goods mencconed in
the said Arle to be putt aboard the said
shipp Mayflower the same were brought and fetched by John ?hart the Masters mate
and John Stratford the purser of the
said shipp and after ward brought onboard y:e sd ship by Cap:t ffisher and that by their advice &
the advise of the said Hart and Stratford & y:e rest of the officers
of the said shipp the same were taken
aboard the said shipp under the notion, &
hope that the Agents and frors of the
East India Companye at Surratt would upon the
arrivall of the said shipp there be
willinge and helpfull in the repairinge
and amendinge the said shipp and fitting
her for England, and whether when the
same

NOTE: Four untranscribed short lines in LH margin. Unclear where they should be inserted: "XX ?backside...XX Island where...XXX were landed...XXX away"//



P1100822

//same were taken aboard thesaid XXX
was not the said shipp altogeather XX
come for England, & that upon the XXX
and greement of all the Companie
pticularly of you the wittnesse the said
Shipp was then bound for Surratt
being the most convenient place XX
procure the said shipp to be amended
and reparied Declare the truth herein, Et
fiat ut supra.

21. Item Inter quilibi Whether XXX
the arrivall of the said shipp at
Surratt the voyage in question did not XX
president of the East India Companoe
and their Officers on shoare yimployed and
the Natives there whome the said CapXX
Curtis had lived and ymployed for the XX
of a docke in order to pcure if he could by all
meanes gett money or Creditt therein XX
shipp to be repaired and would not XXX
said Captaine Curtis have the use and
ymployment of the said Natives soe XXX
meanes thereof the said Shipp was XXX
XXX//



P1100823

Could be gott into a socke there untill the
26:th of November 1660, & that after she
was gott into the Docke she could not be
reparired under the space or tyme of three
monethes, or 11, or 12 weekes at the least
and whether have not you the wittnesse
upon your oath deposed the contents of
this Interrogatory or some pte of it, or
which parte to be true. Et fiat ut supra.

32. Item Inter Quilibi Whether did not the
said shipp at her goeinge from Johanna
to Suarratt arrive at Surratt in as short a
tame as other shipps usually doe
and in such tyme as wind and weather
would pmitt and that the said shipp
came to Surratt at such tyme and season
of the yeare as is usuall for shipps to come
thither & before that tyme, or season of
the yeare that she came thither shipps
did not, nor doe, nor canne come thither.
declare the truth herein. Et fiat ut supra.

33. Item Interr quilibi whether doe you not
know that the said shipp after her
arrivall//



P1100824

/7arrivall at Surratt coukd not be repaired
untill she was gott into a docke there &
whether doe you not know that the sd
Captaine Curtis soe soone as ?possible
he could after the arrivall and XXX
of the said shipp at Surratt did XXX
her defect to be viewed, & that three
English Carpenters there viz:t John BowXXX
henry Evans and ffrancis Barrett XX
the 14:th of November 1660 XXX
said shipp soe much as then XX
be viewed of her she then not beinge ?in
the docke, & did give their Judgemnebts XX
the same shipp could not be reparied XX
three moneths space from the putting XX
the said shipp into a Docke without XX
the same shipp cpuld not berepaired
Declare what you know, beleive, or have heard to
this purpose. Et fiat ut supra.

34. Item Interr quilibi Whether dow you
not know, beleive, or ave heard reported, XX
patly after the cominge in, and unladeinge of
the said shipp at Surratt the said XXX
Curtis did make his ?Applicacon//



PP1100825

//there, to Mathew Andrewes President of the
East India Companie there and his Counsell
and desired and importuned him & them to favour &
assist him in the repairinge of the said
shipp, and to furnish and lend hin monyes
& to farther him therein by helpinge
him to Carpenters, or to that effect, But
the said President and Counsell, did not, nor
would at all assist at all the said Capt Curtis
therein, or lend him any mony to repaire
the said shipp but hindred him therein
and tooke away such carpenters of the Natives
there and other English Carpenters being Capt ffishers Carpter as he had spoken unto, and desired to
imploy therein, and would not suffer them
to be imployed by the said Captaine Curtis
therein. declare the truth herein. Et fiat ut
supra.

35. Item Inter Quilibi Whether at the
same tyme when the said shipp was
at Surratt weer not the Kinge of the
Country his Junks there and the same beinge
out of reparie were not many Carpenters
ymployed therein, & that by that XXXX
through//



P1100826

//through the refusall of the said President
and Companye to assist the saidCapXX
Curtis with monies and Carpenters and the hindring him XX &
want of monies and tyme the said ship
could not be nor was repaired, & if the said XXX
had beene after her cominge into th
Dicke putt in reparinge she would not XXXX
been fitted and amended to come th?at
yeare for England & whether hanXXXX
the witnesse sworne the Contents of XX
Interrogatory or some pt of them upon XX
oath to be true And where and befXXX
Et fiat ut supra.

36 ITEM Inter quilibi et presertmm XXX
part whether duringe the tyme that ?the
said shipp was at Surratt did CCCC
said Captaine Curtis desire & demand of XX
to lend some money towards the
repairnge of the said shipp and XX
did not you refuse to lend and did not
nor would lend any money therein Et
fiat it supra.

37 Item Inter quilibi et presertmm XXXX
XXXX//



P1100827

//part. Whether he doeth not know, or
?beleive in his conscience That if the
said Captaine Curtis could have
pcured money, materialls and Carpenters
to have repaired the said shipp & that
the same could have beene donne in tyme
to fitt the said shipp for England
that yeare he would not have repaired the
said shipp and whether doth not he
beleive in his Conscienec it would have
beene more for the benefitt of the said
Captaine Curtis to have had the said
shipp repaired & to hae come home with
her greight in her than to have disposed
of the said shipp
there. Et fiat ut supra.

38 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you
not know That while the shipp was
at Surratt the yoyage in Question the
said Mathew Andrewes the President &
John//



P1100828

John Lambton his second there and
Captaine ffisher and Captaine pXXXX
and severall others beinge advised XXX
the XXX Captaine Curtis that in
reagard he could not gett the sXXX
shipp to be repaired, what was XXXX
done with the said Shipp, did fXXX
best benefitt of his owners advise
the best way for the benefitt of his XXX
was to sell her there at Surratt, & XXX
did not you the wittnesse know that ?the
said President and Lambton did XXX
their hands give their advise to the XXX
aforesaid. Et fiat ut supra.

39 Ite, Inter quilibi Whether XXXX
know the said Captaine Curtis not XX
able to pcure the said shipp to be XX
didcause the said shipp to be valued XX
or about the 12:th day of December 1660 XX
one Robt ffisher Comander of the
Smyrna merchant and that he did XXX
and//



P1100829

//and apprize the said shipp Tackle,
Apparrell and ffurniture and provisions, at
the simme of vallue of 920:li Ster, & that
the said shipp, tackle, Apparrell &
ffurniture was not worth more
than the said summe of 910:li Ster
Whether was not and is the ?said Robt
ffisher a son of good report, and of
approved honesty and integrity and such a pson
who would not falsly or for reward, or
otherwise vallue the said shipp at a
lesse vallue than the same was worth or
Could be sold for in the arts where she
then was. Et fiat ut supra.

40 ITEM Interr quilibi et praXXtum
Johes Hart Whether were you not
imployed in the sale of the
said Shipp, & whether did, co Could you
gett, or was any more offered unto you for
the said Shipp tackle Apparrell, ffurniture
&//


P1100830

and provisions the 885:li Sterl in the XX
thereof. Declare the truth herein. Et fiat XX
supra.

41 Ztem Interr quilibi Whether did you
know the said Shipp, Mayflower tackle, Apparrell
and ffurniture before her departure for
England the yoyage in Question to East
India, & whether did you not know, XXX
or have heard reported That the said XX
at her retourne from an East India Voyage
next before the voyage in question being
about six monethes next before her goeing XX
the voyage in question to East India was valued and
appraized in the River of Thames by XX
of the then Owners of her and was then
valued but at 1000:li Sterl, and that XX
had as many Gunns and more and XXX XXX
Apparrell and ffurniture belonging unto
her than she had st the tyme of her
sellinge in East India. Declare the XX
herein. Et fiat ut supra.

42 Item Interr quilibi whether doe you
XXX//



P1100831

//the said Captaine Robt ffisher,
whither did you know what pvisions , tackle
and ffurniture did belonge unto the said
Shipp when she was sould in ndia, &
whether is not the third schedule hereunto
annexed a trew ?Invyof the said Shipps
Tackle, Apparrell and ffurniture savinge of
some few things amountinge to about some
15:li . 02. 20:d which Captaine Price had & is
brought in Accompt to the Owners & whwther
was not and is the said third schedule
subscribed with the prop hadnwritinge of
the said Robt ffisher as you know, or
beleive. Et fiat ut supra-

43 Item Inter quilibi whether doe you not know, or beleive in your Conscience that the
said Shipp the May fflower Tackle,
Apparrell and ffurniture and pvisions were
not, nor could be sold for more than the
summe of 910:li & that the most was
made there of that could be made
thereof. declare the truth herein. Et
ponit ut supra.

44 Item//



P1100832

33 Item Inter quilibt et prXXXXX
Stratford Whether you bee XXXXX
the said W:m Curtis the Master of the
Shipp the May fflower dureing all XX
tyme of the voyage in question did XXX
XXXXX himselfe as a carefull abd
provident Master & that he did nXX
tyme dureinge the said voyage neglect XX
service and imployment of the said Onwers
of the said Shipp. Et fiat ut supra

45 Item Inter quilibi Whether doe you
know That in Case any Captaine, M:r XX
Comander of ay Shipp in the Service of
the East India Companie or in the service
of any other Companie or ffreighters, XXX
master, Gunner, Boatswaine, or other
office rof any such shipp doth have XXXX
??Sabbins and ?disacomodate themselves to XX
passing with the same, That the XXXX
which sich passengers did or doth pay, XXXX
for such Cabbin did and doth belonge ?unto ?the
Captaine, Master, Gunner, Purser and
?Officer//



P1100833

//Officer who did and doth disacomodate themselves
and leave his cabbin, and not to the owners
and ffreighters of the said Shipp, &
that the Captaine, Comander and other
officer is not to leave and forsake his Cabbin
to the benefutt of an other for the benefitt
of any pson but himselfe. Declare the truth
herein. Et fiat ut supra.

46 Item Inter quilibi Whether duringe the
tyme that the said Shipp was in the voyage
in question, was she not in the service &
imployment of the East India Companie
and by them freighted and that whatsoever
was earned the said Shipp for freight
of good, or psons did not belonge to the
Owners of the said Shipp. Et fiat ut
supra.

47 ITEM Interr quilibi whether
did not the Embassador and Merchants
whoe went in the said Shipp and voyage
in question pay unto Nicholas ?Buckeridge the
XXX//



P1100834

fror of the East India Companie or to XX
of their frors the freight of the psons XX
goods for the said voyage they were XX
in the said Shipp & that they of ?some
of them did declare soe much & whether XX
not you subscribe your hand to the said
Acknowledgement that they had paid XX
the freight to the said frors on shoare. Et fiat
ut supra.

48 Item Interr Quinlini Whether doe you
not know, beleive, or have heard report
That since the sale of the said Shipp
in or about December 1661 the differences &
Controversies moved and ?accon between
Governour and Companies of Merchants XX
LOôndon tradinge to the East India of the ?one
part and the said Thomas ?Xlsey Esq:r,
Samuel Harwar
on the other arte Concerninge the said ?shipp
the May fflower and ?breach of the XXX
Covenants conteyned in the said Charter pty
were by all the said pties referred to the XXXX
finall hearinge and arbitrment of John XXXX
XXX//



P1100835

//Edward Diggs, James Astrey, and Thomas
Mullmona & that they did heare, and
finally determine the said businesse & that
by the award of the said Arbitrators the said
Governour and Companie did arbitrate &
award unto the said Thomas Hussey and
Samuel Harwar
in full of all dues and damages what soever
for or concerninge the said Shipp & breach
of Covenants Conteyned in the said
Charter ptie the summe of 4400:li or some other greate summe, & what & that
the said Hussey and Harwar have submitted
to the said award and have recd one halfe of the said said monies
and are to receive the rest & that beside the
said money they had 400:li more of the
said last Companie when the Shipp went first
out the voyage in question and that notwithstandinge the said
Hussey and Harwarre doe by this Suite
question and sue the said Captaine Curtis for
that which the said Arbitrators have
arbitrated and ordered and to XXXX XXXXXXXX
the said XXX and Harwar have submitted
Declare what
you//



P1100836

you know, beleeve, or have heard to this
purpose. Et fiat ut supra

49 Utem nterr Quilibt whether did nit XX
said M:r Hussey and Harwar the pties to
this Suite abXXX the said Captaine XXX
Curtis and marriners the Company of XX
said Shipp the May fflower nine
monethes wages of their wages for the voyage
in question. Et fiat ut supra.

50 Item Interr Quilibi Whether have XX
not beene promissed to receive, or act to XXX
all your wages notwithsatndinge the said
Abatement or more than other of the Companie
had and what wages have you recd of the
said M:r Hussey & M:r Harwar and Company for your
wages furinge the voyage in question? Rt XXX
ut supra-

51 ITEM whether have you not beene XXX
or some tyme examined upon your oath in XX
Chancery or some other Court, of XXXXX
some affedavit or affedavits wherein you XX
sworne and deposed that the said XXX//



P1100837

was deteyned in India, and her voyage
homeward lost by meanes of the frors and
Agents of the East India Companye
there, & that the said Captaine Curtis
was in nooe default therein, or to that effect, &
whether was not the said affedavitts made at
the request?s of the said M:r Hussey &
M:r Harwar or one of them, of some of their
Companie and of whome, and were pduced and
shewed to the said Arbitrators. DEclare the
truth herein, & in whose Custody the said
affedavitts now are or lately were. Et fiat ut supra.

52 Item Inter quilibi whether have not you
assisted and advised the psequccon of this
Suite and whether have you not had some
Communiccaon with some psons concerninge this
Suite & to what effect. Et fiat ut supra.

53 Item Inter quilibi whether are you of kinne
to the parties pducent or any of them, or had, or
have any relaccon unto, or dependence upon them, or
any of them, if yea in what nature. Et fiat ut
supra.



P1100838

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P1100839

Document Number: 58: Date: XXXXX


M:r Hussey, Harwar and Companie or some of ?them
in this Suite against the said Captaine Curtis who ther if it were in your power would xou XXX
the Victory in this Cause to the said M:r Harwar
Hussey and Companie, if yea expresse XXXXXXX
fiat ut supra.

Item Inter druis XXXX et quilibi alXXXX
veris causis sXXXX sua x:r

No:58

Some unreadable text (obscured in centre of fold, written at 90 degrees
probably the short title of the case



P1100840

INTERRIA ministranda ex pte
Willm Curtis Testibus oibus, et
singulis ex pte Thomas Hussey
Samuelis Harwar et XXXX rendX
utra XX pduct et producend sequuntu:r
viz:t.

IMPRIMIS Inter quilibi et prasertum Captanens
Johes Price Whether while the Shipp the
May fflower was in East India the voyage in
question and after the Cominge to Surratt did
not Captaine Curtis the M:r of the said Shipp
advise with the said Captaine John Price what
was most fitt and Convenient to be done with
the said Shipp for the good and benefitt of
the owners thereof, & whether did not the said
Price advice the said Curtis, That the best way
in the Judgement of the said Captaine Price
was that the said Shipp should bee sold & that
the sale thereof would turne most to the benefitt
and advantage of the Owners thereof, or to that
effect. Et inter quilibi Con:XX di:m et de quilibi.

2 Item Interr drus Johes Price Whether did you
not know, or beleive in your Conscience That the
said William Curtis was and is an honest, able &
sufficient Sea-man, and for such Comonly
accompted, & whether after the tyme of the Shipp
May-//



P1100841

//May-fflower her Cominge to Surratt the XX
in question did not the said William Curtis XXX
your observaccon carry and XXXXX himselfe XX
provident Carefull and discreet M:r, & that XXX
accordinge to the best of his Judgement and XX
acct for the good and benefitt of his owners
ut supra.

3 Item Interr drus Johes Price. Whether XX
the said Shipp the May fflower was sold in XXX
India the voyage in question, did not you the
Captaine Price approve of the Judgement XX
discreccon of the said Captaine Curtis in the XX
thereof as beinge most advantagious for his XXX
and did write a letter unto him dated upon XXX
the fourteenth of December 1660 wherein you XXX
write unto him That you were glad That he XXX
parted with, or sold the said Shipp the May
fflower, or to that effect. Et fiate supra.

4 Item Interr Johes Miller et ?Diggs XXX WhetherXXX
heretofore an Arbitrator
touchinge the said
Shipp//



P1100842

//the May fflower or some differences thereabouts
if yea? between whome? & for & by whome were you
named or Chosen an Arbitrate? Et fiat ut supra.

5 Item Interr drus Johes Miller et Diggs Ar Whether
duringe the tyme you wer an arbitrator in the
said businesse did not the owners of the said
Shipp, or some on theor nehalfe, or some other
produce affedavitts, writings, or other TestimXXes
or proofe before you and the rest of the
Arbitrators wherein it did appeare, or at
least you, and the rest of the Arbitrators were
XXXXly satisfied That the Breach of Charter
pte touchinge the voyage in question was not
to be Charged upon the Accompt of him the said
William Curtis, & that the said Willm Curtis
was guiltlesse of the same, or to that effect, Et
fiat ut supra.

6 Item Interr drus Johes Miller et Diggs Ar Whether
did not the Owners of the said Shipp charge
the East India Companie with Breach of
Charter-partie of the said voyage in question &
the stayinge and deteyninge of the said Willm
Curtis//



P1100843

//Curtis at Madras before you the said M:r XX
and the rest of the Arbitrators, & with the
Consequences arisinge thereupon. Et fiat XX
supra.

7 Item Interr drus Miller et Diggs Ar Whether before
goeinge zpp the Arbitraccon by you the said
Miller and therest of the Arbitrators XX
there was by you and the rest of the XXX
allotted the summe of 4400:li to the said ?owners
was it not debated and discussed and XXXX
you the Arbitrators on whome the breach of XX
Charter partie for the voyage in question XX
the damages thereupon was to be caste, & XX
was in the fault thereof, & whether there XX
was not in that matter eard before D:r XXX
both D:rs of lawe, & the matter opened & XX
before them, & whether did not they gie XX
opinion /the said D:r Turner beinge for the XX
of the said Shipp, & the said ?S:r Walter XXX
for the east India Companie) That the XXX
of the said Charter partie aforesaid and XXX
Consequents thereof were to be charged upon XX
East India Companie and not upon the ?said
Captaine Curtis, & whether thereupon XXX XXX//

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P1100844

Inter ministranda ex parte
Willm Curtis JohX Miller et
Edward Diggs restibus ex parte
Samuelis Harwar, et Thoma
Hussey XX XXX XX XX utXXXX oducr, et
Quoad Sequuntur. XXX

IMPRIMIS XXX diX testes whether doe you not knowe that
upon a debate to XX XXX the breach of the Charter ptie, and
the matters XXX in question, concerninge the voyage in
question, had
XXX Sir Walter Walker, ad Dr Turner referXXX Drs of
lawe last XXXXXXX XXXX if the said Charter ptie the 29:th of January 1659 was by them
XXXX XXX to be, in, and ?reste upon the East India
Companie, and that there upon the Arbitrators touchinge
XX bzsines whicherof you the said John Miller, and
Edward Diggs were XX) did alloXX XXXXXX XXX e:d
XXXXX and a farre greater sume f money therreupon to
XXX XX that was, and M:r Hussex & Company theXX XXof
would ?have doXXXX A XXXX XXXX dXXXX et dXX
qualibXX

Ib, inter quilibi whether is noe XX XXX schedulat hereunto annexed
whereof XX XX XXX by the Arbitrators aforesaid. Et
fiat ut supra//



P1100855

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P1100856

//and the rest of the Arbitrator Charge the same
upon the East India Companie, & thereupon ordered
and awarded the east India Companie to pay
the said summe of 4400:li to the said owners
Declare the truth herein. Et fiat ut supra.

5 Item Inter Capitanes Johes Price Whether
did you not know That one M:r Trott one of the
owners of the Shipp the May fflower since
this suit beganne and in Aprill 1662 or therabouts
meetinge with the said W:m Curtis asked him
about the businesse, or this Suite & advised him to
give some money to the owners of the said Shipp
to maje amend whereunto Capt Curtis answered
to this effect How canne they (speaking of
the said owners), how canne they expect money
from me & that thereupon M:r Trott replyed
That Captaine Curtis must pay for his XXXX
& that he had an estate & that they speakinge
of the said Owners expected parte of it, or to
that effect. Ex XXX ut supra.

9 Item Inter quilibi et presertum XXXX
Johes Price Whether doe not you know,
beleive, or have credibly heard reported That in
the yeare 1657 The said Shipp May fflower
being//



P1100847

beinge then at Madras and cominge from XX
upon the 29:th of January 1657 (sic) (not XXXX
with violent stormes and Tempests) XXX
voyage for and arrived in England about XXX
followinge And that the said Capt XXXX
sett saile from Madras with the said XXX
29:th January 1659 for England & did XX
his Course for England directly, & that XX
said Shipp did meet with great and XXX
stormes and Tempests on her Course for XX
between Madras and the Cape BXXX XX
Esperance which forced the said Captaine XXX
and Companie with the said Shipp for XX
East India & that if the said Shipp had XX
mett with such stormes The said Captaine XX
in all probability might and had arrived XX
the said Shippp in England in or about
September or October 1660. Declare the truth
et fiat et supar.

10 Item Interr Johes Hill Whether XXX XX
you and Arbitrator elected by M:r Hussex , XX
and Companie, or some of them to arbitrare
and the differences now in question and XX
matters charged thi sSuite by them XX
said Captaine Curtis, Whether did not XX
XXXX//



P1100848

//Harwar, Hussey and Companie, or some of them
order and direct you That you should make noe
end of the businessse under a certaine summe of
mony or Conditions by them proposed & given in
Charge unto you if yea, expresse soe much &
what were the said Conditions? Et fiat ut supra.

11 Item Inter drus Johes Hill Whether in case
he had as an Arbitrator determined this
businesse and putt a finall end to the same
accordinge to such Condicons as had been ?enioyed
him he was not to have had some gratuitie, or
reqard from the said Harwar, Hussey &
Companie or some of them & that they were to
gratifie him in holdinge a parte of a Shipp
where Hill is M:r, if yea to what vallue? Et
fiat ut supra.

12 Item In case the said John Hill shall depose
of any words or Confession Charged in the Allon
whereupon he is examined to have been spoken by the
said Captaine Curtis, when viz:t what day of the
weeke or moneth & in what yeare of our Lord was
it, in what house, or place was it, what were the ?very
prXXX and formall words spoken by the said Captaine
Curtis, & who were there & then put Et fiat ut supra

13 Item Interr drus ?Hall Whether have you not advised
directed and by Counsell, an otherwise assisted the said
M:r//



P1100849

//XX//



Document Number 70: Date: XXXX


P1100850

//No:° 71 [Crossed out]
N:° 79


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Tertio loro

?Product 19: Marty 1661
Exam;m M:r Hart
XX negatio.

INTERRA ministranda ex pte Willim
Curtis Testibus oibus, et singulis
ex pte Hussey x:r
Harwar et serXXXX con en pduct, et
pducend sequuntur.

IMPRIMIS Inter quilibi Whether were you
at Surratt or any other parts in east India in
the yeare 1659 and more thes therein concerning
and more especiallie in the monethes of October,
November, December, January & ffeburary 1659
at such tyme as the Shipp May fflower was there
at Surratt, if yea, Whether doe you not know
or have Credibly heard That monies that were
then lent at Surratt to be paid againe in
Englan, or to be trans=mitted thither againe, were
usually lett at, and after the rate of 50, or 40:li
p Centa, or more and that monies could not be
pcured to be there lent the tyme aforesaid
under the rate of 50 or 40:li p Cent, & whether
did not you pay soe much for money your
selfe there; & at and after what rates were
monies there lent as you know, or beleive. Et
fiat ut supra.

2 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you not knowe
and beleive That if the said Captaine Curtis
could have pcured any monies there,
?to upon creditt at such tyme as the Shopp
was at Surratt he must have paid at and after
the//



P1100855

//the rate of 50, or 40:li p Centa for the said XX
besides the principall And that under that XXX
monies could not be then there had upon creditt Rt XXX
ut supra.//



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Number 72: Case: Joseph XXXX Duell con XXXX: Date: XXXX

p1100857



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INTERRIA ministranda ex pte
Humphridi Dewell Tetibut
oibus et singulis ex pte Dui
William Warrern militis, Johns
Shorter, Vincenij Russlett et
XXXXX Condens utuu pduct et
pducend sequuntur viz:t

1. IMPRIMIS Exponatur Cuilibi Testi prXXX
perXXXXX XXXXet XXXX Testis falsici. Ut tuns
inter de XXXX alate, Conditione, mora et arXXtu
fuit, et quandin novit ptes in humoi Caa
Litigan. Ut inter Con:?m divij et dequolebi

2 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether were you
any of the Companie of the Shipp the Joseph
the voyage in question, & whether were you in the
said Shipp all the tyme that the said Shipp
was Oratava the voyage in question if yea,
expresse soe much. Et fiat ut supra.

3 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you know
the port of Oratava mencconed in the Allon
whereupon you are examined if yea, when
were you last there. Et fiat ut supra.

4 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you know
what day of the moneth yn in what yere the
Shipp the said S:t Joseph did arrive in the port
of Oratava the voyage in question? how many daies
did the said Shipp stay in the said Port of
Orazava after the first arrivall there before she
went out from thence. Et fiat ut supra.//



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5 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether duringe the XX
That the said Shipp the S:t Joseph XX
Island of the Canaries the voyage in question XX
not the said Shipp lye and Anchor for XX
saies and how many dayes as you XX
beleive, or have heard at a Port or Road XXX
Rambles, or by some other name & not at XXX
and did at the said Port (being not XXX
the port of Oratava) take in severall goods XX
How farre distant is the said Port called XX
or by some other name and Oratava distant XX
the said Port of Oratava. Declare the truth XX
herein. Et fiat ut supra.

6 ITEM Inter Quilibi Xin facXit exXXXX
sup tertio Arle allnis Whether in case the
said Shipp the Joseph was putt of XXX
moreings after her Arrivall in the port of
Oratava the voyage in question how longe XXX
after her first Arrivall in the said Port or
Road of Oratava the said voyage in question XX
how long was it before the said Shipp XX
retourne againe unto the said Port of London
rata va. Et fiat ut supra.

7 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you not XXX
That the said Shipp the Joseph did XXX
voyage in question stay, or abide at the Port of
Oratava about sixteen, eighteen or twenty XXX
at the most? Et fiat ut supra.//



P1100860

//8 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you
not know That after the said Shipp had
been at Ortava the voyage by
the space of sixteen, eighteen, or twenty
daies at the most and before the said Shipp
had stayed there by the space of two and
twenty daies the said Vincent Russlett
the then M:r of the said Shipp did
sett saile with the said Shipp from the
Port of Oratava and never retourned thither
againe the voyage in question. Et fiat ut
supra.

9 ITEM Interr quilibi Whether canne you
Certainly sweare and depose That the
said Shipp did lye in the Port of Oratava the
voyage in question 45 daies after her first arrivall there if you Cannott expresse soe
much, & if you Canne whether did you take
noticve what days the said Shipp arrived first
in the said Port the voyage in question & what
tyme she sett saile from thence, if you did
when did you take the said notice and where, &
whether in writinge, or not. Et fiat ut supra.

10 ITEM Interr Quilibi Whether doe you not
know That while the said Shipp the Joseph
was at the Canary Islands the voyage in question
there were two other Shipps there the one
called the Golden Budge or by some other name//



P1100861

//and the other a Shipp whereof one called XX
or some other name was M:r & the said Ship
were both shipps of very good fXXXX & XXXX
they were both bound for London & were XX
to depart from thence at or about the tyme of
the said Vincent Russlett came with his
Shipp the Joseph from thence & that if XX
staidd (sic) by the space of 45 daies at Oratava XX
he ought to have donne, r indeed but two XXX
daies more than he did he might have in XX
with the said Shipps both which Shipps XX
safely arrive in London & that if he had ?soe
donne he might and would have been XXX
from being taken by the manne, or Shipp of
warre by which the Joseph is pretended to XX
taken. Declare what you know, beleive, or have
heard to this purpose. Et foat ut supra.

11 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you XX
know, beleive, or have heard that the said
Shipps mencconed in the next precedent XX
in Companie of whom the said Vincent Russlett
might have come with his said Shipp the
Joseph if he would or one of them did in the
passage of the said Shippes, or one of them
from the Islands of the Canaryes to XXXX
XXX//



P1100863

meet with the said Shipp, or manne of
warre by which it is pretended the Joseph
and her ladeinge were taken & the said
Shipp, or manne of warre in regard the
said Shipp or Shipps, were Shipps, or a
Shipp of ?force did not, nor durst attempt
the takinge or surprizinge of them. How many
Gunns did the said Shipp, or Shipps carry
& of what force were they & either of them as
you know and beleive? Et fiat ut supra.

12 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you not
know, beleive, or have heard That the said
Vincent Russlett might if he would have ?hindered
and prevented the takinge of the said Shipp
the S:t Joseph and her ladinge by the said
manne of warre, & that the Joseph was two
Glasses off the sight of the manne of warre
And that the said Shipp the Joseph of the
said Vincent Russlett would  ?might have
easily have escaped the manne of warre. Et fiat
ut supra.

13 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you not know
beleive, or have heard reported That before the
takinge of the said Shipp the S:t Joseph by
the//



P1100863

//the said manne of warre, & when the said manne
of warre was espied some of the Company of
the said Shipp and pticularly one John ffXXX
beinge then in the said Shipps Companie XX
for the preservaccon of the XX
Shipps Companie and her ladeinge, XXX
desire the said Vincent Russlett to saile with XX
said Shipp back againe to the Canary Islands
some road there where divers Shipps did lye XX
Another & that were bound for London, And XX
the said Vincent Russlett might have soe done
but he would not goe, sayinge what should ?he
goe for, or to that effect. Et fiat ut supra.

14 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether did not the XX
Vincent Russlett cause a Lanthorne with a
lighted Candle to be hanged out in the Joseph
therby to discover to the said manne of warre
the said Shipp the S:t Joseph, or at least XX
Cause of the said Shipp the S:t Joseph &
said Shipp the S:t Joseph by the said XXX
was discovered to the said manne of warre. Et XX
ut supra.

15 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether was not the XX
the S:t Joseph alone and in Companie of noe XX
Shipp when the said lighted Candle was XXX//



P1100864

//out, and whither was & is it not an unusuall
thinge for a single Shipp especially in a place
where there is any danger or apposition of menne
of warre to hang out a light and Contrary to the
Carriage of all knowinge Masters of Shipps that
have the Conduct of Shipps. Declare what you
know, beleive, or have heard to this purpose. Et fiat
ut supra.

16 ITEM Inter quilibi How longe after the
arrivall of the said Shipp the S:t Joseph in the
Port of Oratava were the thirteen pypes of
wine laden aboard the said Shipp the Joseph by
the ffor of the said Humphrey Dewell & how
long next after the ladeinge thereof did the said Shipp depart from the said Port of Oratava
Declare the truth herein as you know, or beleive. Et
fiat et supra.

17 ITEM Inter quilibi Whether doe you not
know, or have heard That the said Vincent
Russlett did upon a Sunday morninge hwen the
people were at Church takinge his Opportunitye &
without givinge notice to the ffor of the said
Humphry Dewell secretly sett saile from Oratava
with his said Shipp without signinge of bills
of ladeinge for the same. Et fiat ut supra.

18 ITEM Inter quilibi Of what trade Condicon
or qualitye of life are you, where & in how
many//



P1100865

//many places have you lived for these four
yeares last past what are you worth youX XXX
paid whether have you any any relaccon unto ?or
Dependenc upon the parties producent , XX
of them; or were or are indebted to them, XXX
them if yea to what summe= Et fiat XXXX

19 Item Interr quilibi Whether have you
any CXXXcon with any pson touching XX
deposiccomn to be made in this cause of ye XX
whome & to what effect & by whose meanes XXX
doe you come to be exammed in this cause
fiat et supra.

20: Item Inter quilibi de cere XXXXX XX
es?//



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Document Number: 77: Date: XXXX


P1100867

//N:° 77//


P1100868

//INMTEROGATORIES to the administracon
?on the parte , and behalfe of Micheal
Dibbs, Richard ?Hicks, and companie
Englishmen, and subjects of the Comon
wealth of England owners of a certaine
shippe called the ffredericke (whereof Samuel
Stanton was Captaine) and Comander
and of the tackle, apparell, and furniture
unto the same belonginge, and of Samuel
Mico, Daniel Skynner, and others
merchants, and subjects of the Comon
wealth of England owners of the
ladeinge of the said shippe whereupon
they desire wittneses to be examined
followe XXX

IMPRIMIS Lett very wittness be asked whether
doe you knowe the said shipes called the ffredericke
(whereof the saw Samuel Stanton was Captaine
and Comander) if yiôu , whether doe you not
know that the said skipper, and the tackle apparrell,
and furniture through belongine did and doth
belonge and appertenance unto the said Michael
Dibbs Richard Hicks , and Companie beinge all
Englishmen, and subiects of the Comonwealth
of England, if you expresse soe much, And lett that
wittnes be asked iointly, and severally of the
premisses, and XXX of every parte thereof
Item lett every wittnesse be asked whether was
not the said skipper in or above the monethes
of//



P1100870

//of January or ffebruary 1656 (accordinge to
the English stile) lett to fraight by the said XXX
or some of them unto the said Samuel Mico, Daniel
Skynner, and other Companie in some of them for XXX
to be made with the said shippe from this port of London
to Bantam or other parts in East India there to XXX
pepper or other goods, and merchandizes for the ?accompt
of the said Samuel Mico, Daniel Skynner, and XX
the fraighters, and ymployers of the said shippe, and
to bringe the same for XXXXX. Declare what you
knowe beleeveth or have heard to this purpose XX
lett the wittnesse be asked as above

3. Item lett everyy wittnesse be asked whether did XX
he saw Captaine Samuel Stanton, and XXX
of marriners sett saile in and with the said ship
and some goods in her from the Downes in or about
the moneth of February 1656 (accordinge to the
English stile) for Bantam and in or about the moneth of
July followinge arrived in and XXX the said
XXXX XXX of the land of Java in East InXXXX
whether was you any of the Companie of XXX
said shipes, and if soe, exprese soe much, and
XXXX you and brXXX in the said shippe. And XXX
wittnesse be asked as above

4 Item lett every wittnesse be asked whether upon XX
arrivall of the said shippe the ffredericke in the XXX
East India aforesaid, and while she was in XXX
for Bantam,a nd about fiftie miles XXXX
XXXX//



P1100871
Recto

//with two Dutch shippes of warre in the immediate
service, and ymployment of the Dutch
East India Companie hath the said shipe the
ffredericke ? whether did not the Comander, a
Captaines of the said two men of warre, or the
Companies thereof ?in (OR, or) some of them comande
of the said Captaine Stanton and his company
whether the said shipes the ffrederick was bound.
what answeare did the said Captaine Stanton or
his companie make therunto. whether did not
the said Captaine Stanton and his companie asome or
some of them conXXXX that the said shipp the
ffrederick was bound for Bantam and that the
said shipp was an English shippe, and XXXbelonge into Englishmen Subiects of the Comonwealth
of England, or to that effecct Decéare what you
knowe or have heard to that purpose

Item lett every wittnesse be asked whether XXXX
XXX the said two Dutch shipes sett out by the
Dutch East India Companie, and in their service
on purpose to XXXX the XXXXX from haveinge any
XXXXX with Bantam, the Inhabitants
thereof, and to take and suprize XX XXX XXX
shippes as she XXXX XX Bantam and
XXXX and not the Captaine, and XXXX
XXXX said two Dutch shipes and companies
XXXX XXXX of them XXX XXX , and
XXXX the XXXXXXXXXX
XXXX//



P1100872
Verso

//were the names of the said two Dutch shipps
and the Captaines a comanders thereof and
the wittnesse be asked as above

6. Item lett every wittnesse be asled whether did XX
not the comanders of the said two Dutch menn of
warre XXX the answeare made by the said Captaine
Stanton or some of his companie, that the said
shippe the ffrederick was bound for bantam XX
said Captaine Stanton, that he mXXst not goe
his said shipe for Bantam, who he did not
Captaines of the said two Dutch shipes to XXXX
aske the said Captaine Stanton to come on board
the sad Dutch shipes or one of them, whether XXX
not he tell them that he and the XXX of the sd
shipes under his comand, and thXX he might XX
goe out of his owne shipes, what her XXXXXXXXXX
XXXX said two Dutch Captaines the Comanders of the
said two Dutch Shipes did sevally mXXXX the XXXX
shipes boates, and came forh with aboard thXXX
Captaine Stantons shipe called the ffedericke XXX
XXX you know, or have credibly heard to the XXX

7 Item lett every wittnesse be aske, what her XXX
after the XXXXX of the said two Dutch?Captaines
on board the said shipe the ffrederick did not
?said two Ducth Captaines
or one of them till the said Captaine XXXX
that they were comanded to beXXXX all ?English
shipes that they should meete w:th to the XXX
XXXX at the ?North East end of XX
Island called XXly Paniau. Declare what
you knowe, or have heard to this purpose. And
lett the wittnesse be asked XXX
XXX//



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//Item lett every wittnesse be asked whether did
XX the said two Dutch men of warre saile w:th
the said shipe the ffredericke, and XXX her inder their
comand untill they had brought her under the comand
a their admirall XXXXX a Dutch shipp lyeinge
XXX XXXX othe Dutch shippes (XXX XXX Ducth shippes



P1100874

//did not sevall ?barks laden w:th XXXX
and bXXXX, and fishXXX vessells usually and
frequently goe in, and out to, and from
Bantam XX XXX XXXX in and out to and
from Bantam what XXX goods, XXX XXX
XXX pcuring they XXXXX, and that the said
Dutch shippes did not nor XXXX, nor went XXXX
power of XXX courts to hXXX hindered them and
that the said Dutch shippes were soe farre from
makeing any share of a XXXXX XXXX XXX
as XXX XX Dutch XXX not any are man in
armes upon & XXXX as must XX XXX XX
nor durst they land any men out of themXXX
to goe to or XXXX BaXXX , and XXX
they XXXX had or pretended to have XXX
hips or possibility of taking XXXX XXX
that they possessed soe ?much, and that XX XXXX
of the Dutch ship XXX to keep & XXXXXX XXX
?moreings to Bautam, and to XXXXX
whole trade of & comodities of Bantam
& XXXX thereunto belong ing unto
themselves, and to exclude &
XXXX from XXXXXX trade or XX
them, and eher doe you XXX know
in your
XXXX
XXXX
shipes XXX



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P1100876

//12 Item lett every wittnesse be asked whether
doe you not knowe, or have hear dthat XXX
Cittie of Bantam did and dooth stand XX
a XXXXX Island called Java Maior, and XXXX
thesaid Island is a very greate Islan, and
forsuch comonly accompted, of where exXXXX
or ?iusuit was, and is the said Island XXXX
you did knowe, or have credibly head, why
hath yoz XXXX any thXXX or mapps of
said Island XXXX and XXXXX
that or mapps hereunto annexed a true XX
or mapp of the said Citties and of pte of the said Island and
by XXXX of the Dutch east India Company
XXX XXXX to be and XXXXX in
XXXXXX XXX XXX & hath and XXXX in and
above X sais island and Cittie, and that
perXXXX of the said Cutie XX XXXXXX
lye and stand in such manner of the XXX
XXXX XXX are expressed in the said Cort or
?Mappe XXX the truth herein. And XX
& wittnes of her XXXX



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  1. Thoma Breton. Thomas Breton, London merchant (b. ?, d. ca. 1687 or 1688) PROB 11/392 Exton 87-130 Will of Thomas Breton, Merchant of London 4th February 1688
  2. Abraham Sayon. Abraham Sayon (b. ?, d. ca. 1667), London merchant ( PROB 11/324 Carr 59-116 Will of Abraham Sayon of Merchant 26 June 1667)
  3. Johis Godschall. Possibly John Godschall (b. ?, d. ca. 1693), London merchant (PROB 11/416 Will of John Godschall, Merchant of London 30 October 1693 Coker 134-174)
  4. Thomas Hussey. Possibly Thomas Hussey (b. ?, d. ca. 1671), London grocer, resident of Hampstead in 1664 and 1666. In 1666 the Hampstead house was rated at 15 hearths. The VCH, Middx, vol. 9 states that Thomas Hussey, a London grocer, lived in a house on the west side of Hampstead on the medieval customary holding of Slyes. The house was assessed at 14 hearths in 1664 and in 1675 was occupied by William, Lord Paget (PROB 11/336 Duke 54-101 Will of Thomas Hussey of Hampstead, Middlesex 13 May 1671; 'Hampstead town' in C R Elrington (ed.), 'Hampstead: Hampstead Town', A History of the County of Middlesex: Volume 9: Hampstead, Paddington (London, 1989), pp. 15-33, viewed 10/03/12))
  5. Samuel Harwar. Possibly Samuel Harwar (b. ?, d. ca. 1690), London grocer (PROB 11/398 Will of Samuel Harwar, Grocer of London 10 March 1690 Dyke 1-44)
  6. The Mayflower was employed by the English East India Company in 1658 under its commander William Curtis to go and lade pepper at the island of Sumatra. At Acheine (Achine) a boat was sent to the Mayflower carrying pepper, but was seized by Balthasar Bort, commander of three Dutch ships at Acheine road in the immediate service of the Dutch East Indai company, who forbad any further attempts to load pepper on board the Mayflower. ('Mayflower, A.D. 1659' in 'An account of the depradations committed by the Dutch upon the English delivered to the Dutch embassador by the committee, 11. Octob. 1659', p. 761
  7. Thomas Chamber took over as chief agent in Madras in 1659, after the death of William Greenhill (Possibly PROB 11/408 Will of Sir Thomas Chamber of Hanworth, Middlesex 15 March 1692 Fane 1-48