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Theare are alsoe six great Gunns appertaineing to y:t Shipp Owners left á former voyadge w:th M:r Jn:o Lambton,<ref>John lambton was XXXX</ref> which wee pray yo:r assistance in theire dispossall & sending retourne, a bout w:ch I presume y:d [or "y:e"] Owners have writt off M:r Lambton; more over three hundred & odd Granado shells y:t were left his liberty (sic), if soo, when you require satisfaction from y:t Rebell for y:d OR y:e] Comp:a Efforts w:ch hee sized at [[MRP: Rajapur| Rajapore]] & the losse of theire serv:ts there, that you bee alsoe mindfull of us. | Theare are alsoe six great Gunns appertaineing to y:t Shipp Owners left á former voyadge w:th M:r Jn:o Lambton,<ref>John lambton was XXXX</ref> which wee pray yo:r assistance in theire dispossall & sending retourne, a bout w:ch I presume y:d [or "y:e"] Owners have writt off M:r Lambton; more over three hundred & odd Granado shells y:t were left his liberty (sic), if soo, when you require satisfaction from y:t Rebell for y:d OR y:e] Comp:a Efforts w:ch hee sized at [[MRP: Rajapur| Rajapore]] & the losse of theire serv:ts there, that you bee alsoe mindfull of us. | ||
− | I alsoe prayed you to farther M:r Valentine Nurses,<ref>Valentine Nurse was | + | I alsoe prayed you to farther M:r Valentine Nurses,<ref>Valentine Nurse's son, also named Valentine Nurse, was at Scindy with Nicholas Scrivener, William Bell, and John Cox (''EFI 61-64'', p. 27). Valentine Nurse (junior) had returned to London by August 1667, when Sir William Ryder again wrote to Sir George Oxenden, reporting: "M:r Valentine Nurse is heare & I thank yo:w for y:t good Caracter w:ch yo:w give of him to ye Comp:a whose ffather ye good honest XX died about 2 months past, & it is XXXX hee may have left Valentine some wt but he must abroad againe" ([[MRP: 22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green|22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green]])</ref> sonne to y:e honest D:r<ref>Dr. Valentine Nurse, the father of Valentine Nurse (junior), died around June 1667, as reported in a letter from Sir William Ryder to Sir George Oxenden dated August 22nd, 1667 ([[MRP: 22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green|22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green]])</ref> w:ch I nedd not a gaine put you in minde of knowing yo:r inclination is to doo good & helpe forward industry. M:r Rob:t S:t Hills [Wills?]<ref>M:r Rob:t S:t Hills was XXXX. See [[MRP: Missing faces|Missing faces]]</ref> son: I prayed you alsoe to remember & some others by name w:ch I shall not farther insist on seing you are pleased in yo:r lre soo Cordially to hint y:t all my requests to you are Ent:d in Y:e Booke of life, wishing my selfe in some capacity to merritt yo:r Kindenesse. |
Yo:r passage from [[MRP: y:e The Downs| Downes]] to y:e place being successfull I hope y:e rest of yo:r voyadge provdd answerable thereunto, & that this may findd you in good health & prosperity at y:e desired port of [[MRP: Surat| Surratt]] where I doubt not but you have found y:e Bird in his nest who has hadd time Enough there to hatch mischefe haveing sufficiently not onely abused the Comp:a but tyrannized over his fellow serv:tts & brought honest Henry Revington<ref>Henry Revington was XXXX</ref> at last to his grave where noo doubt (his body being at rest) his Soule is in Glory. & for w:t Efforts of his remaines in them parts I desire yo:r care that his freinds may enjoy them. | Yo:r passage from [[MRP: y:e The Downs| Downes]] to y:e place being successfull I hope y:e rest of yo:r voyadge provdd answerable thereunto, & that this may findd you in good health & prosperity at y:e desired port of [[MRP: Surat| Surratt]] where I doubt not but you have found y:e Bird in his nest who has hadd time Enough there to hatch mischefe haveing sufficiently not onely abused the Comp:a but tyrannized over his fellow serv:tts & brought honest Henry Revington<ref>Henry Revington was XXXX</ref> at last to his grave where noo doubt (his body being at rest) his Soule is in Glory. & for w:t Efforts of his remaines in them parts I desire yo:r care that his freinds may enjoy them. | ||
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==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
+ | ===Valentine Nurse, merchant=== | ||
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+ | "Valentine Nurse "drunken sott" as he is, he sends home to England instead of leaving him to die in the country"<ref>James Douglas, ''Bombay and western India: a series of stray papers'', vol. 2 (XXXX, 1893), p. 376</ref> | ||
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+ | - This above statement is rather surprising in the light of the good character that Sir George Oxenden gave for Valentine Nurse to the EEIC, as reported in a later letter from Sir William Ryder to Sir George Oxenden, dated August 22nd, 1667<ref>[[MRP: 22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green|22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green]]</ref> | ||
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+ | - However, an earlier letter from Sir William Ryder to Sir George Oxenden, dated April 16th, 1667, shows that Ryder was under no illusions about Valentine Nurse (junior), calling him ""Athick sculled peece"<ref>[[MRP: 16th April 1667, Letter from William Rider to Sir GO, London|16th April 1667, Letter from William Rider to Sir GO, London]]</ref> | ||
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==Possible primary sources== | ==Possible primary sources== |
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26th March 1663, Letter from William Rider to Sir GO, London
BL, Add. MS. XX,XXX, ff. 51-53
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[BL, Add. MS. XX,XXX, ff. 51-53]
[f.51]
Right Worp:ll S:r Geo: Oxinden.
My good freind I have rcvd yo:r kinde lines Dated in Madera April last & congratulate yo:r safe arrivall & good passage farr retoruning you my heartie thanks y:t you have given yo:r selfe y:e trouble in prssing my severall papers; such slight bussinesse ought not to interrupt yo:r more weighty affaires yett since you are pleased soo farre to take recognizance of them as [OR "at"] hint them in pticular to meee it imboldens mee to bagg up yo:r farther trouble therein, & in y:e first place concerneing M:r W:m Downes[1] estate, according to y:e exammination ?minos guner of y:e Surratt mch:t yould per[XX]ance [OR “pretend”?] it may bee of farr greater valew than our is like to come to y:e Executo:rs hands without yo:r assistance there in who I know to bee so farr á [XXXX] of Justice y:t you will indeavour (sic) Every one may have theire due & D:to [CHECK] Cownds Acco:t comeing home on last yeares shipps wee findd brought into y:e Comp:a Books onely S :[or possibly “$:”] 209:04: over & á Bove his wages, soo y:t
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By Ech:a unto Cap:t Torrells[2] Widdoe á good part of w:ch I have caused to bee stopt in y:e Comp:a hands till y:e Arrivall this yeares shipping, & M:r Heron[3] & M:r Bull retournes theire thanks for yo:r kinde remembrance of them.
In the next place concerneing M:r Conyers[4] lre, & the shipp Eagles bussinesse who being safe arrived heere w:th us will have no want of the stores & necessaries sent out for her upon y:e Shipp Rich:d & Martha soo if you please to bee soo kindd to y:e Owners of that Shipp Eagle as to turne them necessaries into á lesser some, goods propp. for this mkett as to Dyamonds or y:e like it will bee greatly acknowledged by them.
Theare are alsoe six great Gunns appertaineing to y:t Shipp Owners left á former voyadge w:th M:r Jn:o Lambton,[5] which wee pray yo:r assistance in theire dispossall & sending retourne, a bout w:ch I presume y:d [or "y:e"] Owners have writt off M:r Lambton; more over three hundred & odd Granado shells y:t were left his liberty (sic), if soo, when you require satisfaction from y:t Rebell for y:d OR y:e] Comp:a Efforts w:ch hee sized at Rajapore & the losse of theire serv:ts there, that you bee alsoe mindfull of us.
I alsoe prayed you to farther M:r Valentine Nurses,[6] sonne to y:e honest D:r[7] w:ch I nedd not a gaine put you in minde of knowing yo:r inclination is to doo good & helpe forward industry. M:r Rob:t S:t Hills [Wills?][8] son: I prayed you alsoe to remember & some others by name w:ch I shall not farther insist on seing you are pleased in yo:r lre soo Cordially to hint y:t all my requests to you are Ent:d in Y:e Booke of life, wishing my selfe in some capacity to merritt yo:r Kindenesse.
Yo:r passage from Downes to y:e place being successfull I hope y:e rest of yo:r voyadge provdd answerable thereunto, & that this may findd you in good health & prosperity at y:e desired port of Surratt where I doubt not but you have found y:e Bird in his nest who has hadd time Enough there to hatch mischefe haveing sufficiently not onely abused the Comp:a but tyrannized over his fellow serv:tts & brought honest Henry Revington[9] at last to his grave where noo doubt (his body being at rest) his Soule is in Glory. & for w:t Efforts of his remaines in them parts I desire yo:r care that his freinds may enjoy them.
I presumne M:r ffrench[10] & M:r ffox[11] write M:r Gray a boutt to w:chplease to lend yo:r Countenance & Good advice
As for y:e Poore men M:r Ran:d Taylor Rich:a Taylor & Jeffford, [check whether "Jefford" is not actually Humphrey Gyffard’s son – see LETTER OF HUMPHREY GYFFARD TO GO: XXXX: f. X] who were detained by the Rebell I hope you have gott them released & will use some means to vindicate y:e Comp:a & theire losses least passing by such an Abuse, doo render the Comp:a & theire serv:ts in them parts contemptable
I very much desire to know how S:r Abr:m Shipman, & y:t Collony und:r his Comands are setled y:t o:r Nation may say in o:r dayes they have some considerable place in India & live und:er theire owne Commands, w:ch will not bee pleaseing to o:r Neighbours y:e Holland:s who as wee are informed had notice that Cotheend [could be “Ostheend”] was to bee delivered over unto his majesty as part of y:e Queen es Dowry they imeddiately bent theire forces against it to take it from y:e Portugall y:t it might not come into y:e hands of y:e English, & if theire reports bee true they have it already in theire possession. And now I have begun to say some what of thats insulting Nation whos Gold Chaine you note has hereto fore ?reatchover to Whitehall they must now ??[y]ery much in large & y:e links of it, or that project of theirs will noo longer hold . His Maiesty Being resolved y:t his people shall noo longer bee abused by them, & holds them stoutly ??tot to give satisfaction for
[f.53]
All injuryes they have done our Nation in Grall. Since y:e treaty 1664 but y:e East India Comp:a onely w:t came to light [XXXX] Jan: ry 1659/7: [that’s what it appears to say, though this seems odd] y:epticulers of all W;ch you will see at large in y:e Articles w:ch shall bee sent you by Cap:t Millett
Wee had notice of Cap:t Minors in y:e Leopard, his being at Augustine Bay soo hope you mett well to geather (sic) at Johanna soo hope his Majesties Shipps have done theire worke they went on & y:t you have retourned them full for Europe for three months hence wee shall begin to Export them onely Cap:t Tinker his shipps great Belly wee are apt to beleeve must bee filled w:th Jamby Pepper.
I am Glad y:e Chose of fflorence proved good & y:t it was put to soo good á use as to refresh yo:r Noble Generalls y:e Earle of Marlebrough & S:r Abr:m Shipman & seing yo are pleased soo kindely to except (sic) of soo slender a mite it imboldend mee to pray yo:r exceptance unto two small Cases of spanish wine such as I & my freinds drinke here they are marked G:O: & committed to yo:r Charge of o:r ffreind Cap:t Nich:o Millett w:ch God send safe unto you is but á taste of w:t wee here drink yo:r health in w:th o:r freind S:r Geo: Smith, porter &c:a who I presume doo advise you of all passages heere, & yo:r deare Madam Dalyson who is yo:r great Champion in handling Ald:m Love & comp:a dooth certainely give you a full & pfect relation of all yo:r concernements that way, soo will bee needlesse for mee to insist on.
And where as you desire to have o:r Stock enlarged in them parts you will I presume have no Cause to Complane of y:t wee haveing this yeare sent you aout a very plentifull stock & onely, y:e Loyall Merch:t & Affrican & for serv:ts or ffactors you will not findd any onely y:e young nab w:ch was left behinde out of y:e Convertine, who was farthered to you at y:e request of Madam Dalyson.
Our Comp:a in theire lres have given you a hintt to for beare bying of Cardomons heere beeing Enough (in twone of y:t Comodity for foure or five years & though they bee in pticuler mens hands of w:ch some of o:r frends are concerndd who will not onely bee loosers by them but y:e Comp:a will be sufferrors, in bringing the Comodityu downe to nothing so y:t if you forbeare sending for á yeare or two it will bee a kindenesse to all, w:ch S:r Rich:d fford & my selfe in pticuler will acknowledge. And haveing now sufficiently Respassed upon yo:r patience I shall for beare to give you any farther trouble for present, onely to tender you y:e Cordiall & hearty salutes of my selfe, Wife, Sonne & Daughter Middleton Etc:a doo crave leave and rest
Yo:r assured Loveing ffr:d
To serve you.
W:m Rider
In London y:e 26:th March 1663.
Notes
Valentine Nurse, merchant
"Valentine Nurse "drunken sott" as he is, he sends home to England instead of leaving him to die in the country"[12]
- This above statement is rather surprising in the light of the good character that Sir George Oxenden gave for Valentine Nurse to the EEIC, as reported in a later letter from Sir William Ryder to Sir George Oxenden, dated August 22nd, 1667[13]
- However, an earlier letter from Sir William Ryder to Sir George Oxenden, dated April 16th, 1667, shows that Ryder was under no illusions about Valentine Nurse (junior), calling him ""Athick sculled peece"[14]
Possible primary sources
- ↑ William Downes was XXXX. See Missing faces
- ↑ Captain Torrell was XXXX. See Missing faces
- ↑ Samuel Heron was Sir William Ryder's experienced servant
- ↑ Possibly Charles Conyers. Sir William Ryder wrote to Sir George Oxenden from London in a letter dated April 16th, 1667 telling him of the death of "Mr. Charles Conyers" some ten days earlier, and adding "I must againe begg yo:w to dispose of Y:e gunns y:t he bought of y:e Eagles owners 16th April 1667, Letter from William Rider to Sir GO, London. See Missing faces
- ↑ John lambton was XXXX
- ↑ Valentine Nurse's son, also named Valentine Nurse, was at Scindy with Nicholas Scrivener, William Bell, and John Cox (EFI 61-64, p. 27). Valentine Nurse (junior) had returned to London by August 1667, when Sir William Ryder again wrote to Sir George Oxenden, reporting: "M:r Valentine Nurse is heare & I thank yo:w for y:t good Caracter w:ch yo:w give of him to ye Comp:a whose ffather ye good honest XX died about 2 months past, & it is XXXX hee may have left Valentine some wt but he must abroad againe" (22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green)
- ↑ Dr. Valentine Nurse, the father of Valentine Nurse (junior), died around June 1667, as reported in a letter from Sir William Ryder to Sir George Oxenden dated August 22nd, 1667 (22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green)
- ↑ M:r Rob:t S:t Hills was XXXX. See Missing faces
- ↑ Henry Revington was XXXX
- ↑ Mr. French was Paul French. He wrote to Sir George Oxenden on March 26th 1663, the same day as Ryder's letter, and mentioned he friendship with Sir William Ryder. His son-in-law was the deceased Henry Revington (26th March 1663, Letter from Paul Ffrench to Sir GO). French also wrote two years later to Sir George Oxenden, in response to a letter from Oxenden (10th March 1665/66, Letter from Paul French to Sir GO)
- ↑ Mr. Fox was possibly Thomas Fox, who wrote to Sir George Oxenden on March 23rd 1662/63, requesting news of his son Thomas Fox by the next ship (23rd March 1662/63, Letter from Thomas Fox to Sir GO, London)
- ↑ James Douglas, Bombay and western India: a series of stray papers, vol. 2 (XXXX, 1893), p. 376
- ↑ 22nd August 1667, Letter from William Ryder to Sir GO, Bethnal Green
- ↑ 16th April 1667, Letter from William Rider to Sir GO, London