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|Transcription=To the 11th hee saith, That the said Vinitro, hill and fendley  (sic) were and
|Transcription=To the 11th hee saith, that the said Vinitro, Sill and feadley were and
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are severally indebted to this deponent who expecteth payment of the said
are severally indebted to this deponent who exported payment of the said
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respective debts due to him out of the wages of the sayd parties Agents/
respective debts due to him out of the wages of the d parties Agents/
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To the 12th hee saith that hee this rendent doeth not enough any
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To the 12th hee saith, That hee this rendent doeth not know of any
 
freight received for any of the goods laden aboard the said shipp the
 
freight received for any of the goods laden aboard the said shipp the
voyage in question, but hath heard the said Fawkner the Alner
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voyage in question, but hath heard the said Fawkner the [?Elder]
at knowledge that freight was paid for the said goods and hath alsoe
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acknowledge that freight was paid for the said goods and hath alsoe
heard some of the merchants laders say they had paid freight for
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heard some of the Merchants Laders say they had paid freight for
 
their goods aboard and for their passages in the said shipp, before
 
their goods aboard and for their passages in the said shipp, before
 
shee came to the disaster aforesaid./
 
shee came to the disaster aforesaid./
  
Repeated before Doctor odolphin
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Repeated before Doctor Godolphin/
  
 
Thomas Attwood [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
 
Thomas Attwood [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]
  
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The last day of Aprill 1656
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The last day of Aprill. 1656/
  
Gold Roach and ochere against&#125;
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Gold Roach and others against&#125;
dobbins Smith Suckley&#125;
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dobbins. Smith Suckley&#125;
  
 
Examined upon an Allegation on the behalf of the said dobbins./
 
Examined upon an Allegation on the behalf of the said dobbins./
  
'''dt Rp j'''
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'''Rp j'''
  
'''William Haddocke''' of wapping in the Countie
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'''William Haddocke''' of Wapping in the Countie
of middlesex mariner aged 49 yeares or thereabouts
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of Middlesex mariner aged 49 yeares or thereabouts
a wittnes sworne and examined saith as followeth
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a wittnes sworne and examined saith as followeth-
  
To the first Article of the said Allegation hee saith. That by and according to
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To the first Article of the said Allegation hee saith, That by and according to
the usuall Customs knowne received and practized amoungst Aterchault
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the usuall Customs knowne received and practized amoungst Merchants
and Masters of shipps, there was and is an Allowance in all sea voyages
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and Masters of shipps, there was and is an Allowance in all sea voyages
to the master and Companie of every shipp, according to the nature of the
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to the Master and Companie of every shipp, according to the nature of the
voyage and the quality of the goods, spare voiages being of qreater and
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voyage and the quality of the goods, some Voiages being of qreater and
some of lesse importance, And saith that from the ports of st. Mallo
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some of lesse importance, And saith that from the Ports of Saint Mallo
Roane New haven flanders dover Genoa and leghorne and other ports
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Roane New haven flanders dover Genoa and Leghorne and other Ports
within and without the streights, the usuall allowance to the Master and
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within and without the Streights, the usuall allowance to the Master and
Companie was and it upon each bale of goods two Royalls upon every duchat
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Companie was and it upon each bale of goods two Royalls upon every duckat
 
of freight, or one Royall at the least, And that upon every voyage
 
of freight, or one Royall at the least, And that upon every voyage
whatsoever the laders or ffreighters doe usually and generally give an
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whatsoever the Laders or ffreighters doe usually and generally give an
 
Allowance to the Masters and Companies of shipps by them employed
 
Allowance to the Masters and Companies of shipps by them employed
over and besides the freight due and payable to the proprietors of
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over and besides the freight due and payable to the Proprietors of
such shipp or shipps, which is Allowances commonly knowne and
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such shipp or shipps, which Allowances commonly knowne and
 
entitled by and with the name or title of primiage and Average the
 
entitled by and with the name or title of primiage and Average the
 
premisses hee saith hee knoweth by long experience, having for about 28
 
premisses hee saith hee knoweth by long experience, having for about 28
or 30 yeares last past borne sevirall officers in and aboard severall shipps
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or 30 yeares last past borne severall officers in and aboard severall shipps
 
and having been Master and Commander of severall shipps in severall
 
and having been Master and Commander of severall shipps in severall
voiages from ˹all˺ the ports above said for the spare of 21 yeares last past
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voiages from all the ports above said for the space of 21 yeares last past
 
or thereabouts, and thereby hath practically and punctually observed and
 
or thereabouts, and thereby hath practically and punctually observed and
 
taken notice of the Custome and allowance predeposed. having received himself
 
taken notice of the Custome and allowance predeposed. having received himself
severall times such allowance upon his severall voiages from those parts And
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severall times such allowance upon his severall Voiages from those parts And
further cannot depose./
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further cannot depose&#58;-/
  
 
To the second Article hee saith that for severall yeares last past came
 
To the second Article hee saith that for severall yeares last past came
particularly ever since English shipps have used ˹the˺ navigation betweene
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particularly ever since English shipps have used the navigation betweene
Lisbone and the Brazeele manned told English or others, there hath from
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Lisbone and the Brazeele manned with English or others, there hath from
time to time constantly and continually been a certainie average allowed and
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time to time constantly and continually been a certaine average allowed and
 
mentioned in every Charterparty and bill of ladeing for or by way of average
 
mentioned in every Charterparty and bill of ladeing for or by way of average
 
besides the freight due to the shipps Owners in such Charterparties expressed
 
besides the freight due to the shipps Owners in such Charterparties expressed
which all&#123;XX&#125;ance or average the Mastger and Companies of shipps
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which allowance or average the Masters and Companies of shipps
undertaking such a voyage have usually received from their freighters
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undertaking such a Voyage have usually received from their freighters
 
as to them the said Masters and Companies duely belonging and not to
 
as to them the said Masters and Companies duely belonging and not to
 
the Owners of such shipp or shipps, And saith the said Average was and is
 
the Owners of such shipp or shipps, And saith the said Average was and is
 
constantly soe allowed as grounded upon a long continued Custome and practice
 
constantly soe allowed as grounded upon a long continued Custome and practice
and privilidge of such Masters and Companies, for and as an engen fayeurt
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and priviledge of such Masters and Companies, for and as an engagement
and reward to ˹and˺ for the undergoeing of soe dangerous a voiage both as regard
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and reward to and for the undergoeing of soe dangerous a voiage both as regard
 
of the excessive heate in the parts of Brazeele, and of the hostile environment
 
of the excessive heate in the parts of Brazeele, and of the hostile environment
they are lyable to meet with all from the Hollanders being enemies to the port
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they are lyable to meet with all from the hollanders being enemies to the Portu=
prise, and for satisfaction of dammage in the goods if any such happen by
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guese, and for satisfaction of dammage in the goods if any such happen by
the default of such masters and Companie, the premisses hee saith hee
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the default of such Masters and Companie, The premisses hee saith hee
 
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|Suggested links=[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]
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[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdFlXNjQ3ekM0WW5NS1oyN250QUpJd0E#gid=0 HCA 3/47 Page Log & Planner]
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To the 11th hee saith, That the said Vinitro, hill and fendley (sic) were and
are severally indebted to this deponent who expecteth payment of the said
respective debts due to him out of the wages of the sayd parties Agents/

To the 12th hee saith, That hee this rendent doeth not know of any
freight received for any of the goods laden aboard the said shipp the
voyage in question, but hath heard the said Fawkner the [?Elder]
acknowledge that freight was paid for the said goods and hath alsoe
heard some of the Merchants Laders say they had paid freight for
their goods aboard and for their passages in the said shipp, before
shee came to the disaster aforesaid./

Repeated before Doctor Godolphin/

Thomas Attwood [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]

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The last day of Aprill. 1656/

Gold Roach and others against}
dobbins. Smith Suckley}

Examined upon an Allegation on the behalf of the said dobbins./

Rp j

William Haddocke of Wapping in the Countie
of Middlesex mariner aged 49 yeares or thereabouts
a wittnes sworne and examined saith as followeth-

To the first Article of the said Allegation hee saith, That by and according to
the usuall Customs knowne received and practized amoungst Merchants
and Masters of shipps, there was and is an Allowance in all sea voyages
to the Master and Companie of every shipp, according to the nature of the
voyage and the quality of the goods, some Voiages being of qreater and
some of lesse importance, And saith that from the Ports of Saint Mallo
Roane New haven flanders dover Genoa and Leghorne and other Ports
within and without the Streights, the usuall allowance to the Master and
Companie was and it upon each bale of goods two Royalls upon every duckat
of freight, or one Royall at the least, And that upon every voyage
whatsoever the Laders or ffreighters doe usually and generally give an
Allowance to the Masters and Companies of shipps by them employed
over and besides the freight due and payable to the Proprietors of
such shipp or shipps, which Allowances commonly knowne and
entitled by and with the name or title of primiage and Average the
premisses hee saith hee knoweth by long experience, having for about 28
or 30 yeares last past borne severall officers in and aboard severall shipps
and having been Master and Commander of severall shipps in severall
voiages from all the ports above said for the space of 21 yeares last past
or thereabouts, and thereby hath practically and punctually observed and
taken notice of the Custome and allowance predeposed. having received himself
severall times such allowance upon his severall Voiages from those parts And
further cannot depose:-/

To the second Article hee saith that for severall yeares last past came
particularly ever since English shipps have used the navigation betweene
Lisbone and the Brazeele manned with English or others, there hath from
time to time constantly and continually been a certaine average allowed and
mentioned in every Charterparty and bill of ladeing for or by way of average
besides the freight due to the shipps Owners in such Charterparties expressed
which allowance or average the Masters and Companies of shipps
undertaking such a Voyage have usually received from their freighters
as to them the said Masters and Companies duely belonging and not to
the Owners of such shipp or shipps, And saith the said Average was and is
constantly soe allowed as grounded upon a long continued Custome and practice
and priviledge of such Masters and Companies, for and as an engagement
and reward to and for the undergoeing of soe dangerous a voiage both as regard
of the excessive heate in the parts of Brazeele, and of the hostile environment
they are lyable to meet with all from the hollanders being enemies to the Portu=
guese, and for satisfaction of dammage in the goods if any such happen by
the default of such Masters and Companie, The premisses hee saith hee