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| − | '''Editorial history'''
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| − | 26/03/12, CSG: Created page
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| − | ==Suggested links==
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| − | See [[MRP: Admiralty court cases|Admiralty court cases]]
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| − | ==Listing of imaged cases==
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| − | '''Imaged HCA 13/64 from f1r. to f. 41v.'''
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| − | P1090473 Cover of leather bound volume
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| − | P1090474, P1090475, P1090476
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| − | Ex pte Jacobi Lampr?ier
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| − | XXXX navem y:e Amity
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| − | In ansywer to the first and second interrogratories. Jacobi Lampr?ier and XXX the lawful owner of one third part of the Amity. Ship at Newfound Land. April last past the said Jacobi lampr?ier did furnish and set out his said one third partof the said ship on a “"trading voyage for the port of S:t Mallo aclate to Newfoundland to catch fish and to carry the same for Bilbao and there to dispose of and soe to returne againe for S:t Malo w:th the proceed of such goods for his owne proper Accompt. The deponent knows this becasue he was living in S:t Malo France at the time and had “from tyme to tyme every yeare sett out victualled and imployed the said part of the ship the Amity w:ch hee had bought about eight yeares since of Thomas LibbXston and John Masters of Jersey"
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| − | In answer to the 3rd and 4th interrogatories.
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| − | In answer to the 5th interrogratory. The deponent knows James Lamprier very well, and has done so for about 20 years. James Lamprier was a subiect of the Commonwealth at the time of the surprizall and seizure of the said ship and ladeing. Lamprier "had formerly about 8 yeares since bin an Inhabitant and lived in Jersey where hee beleiveth hee was borne” The deponent stated that “at such tyme as the said Island of Jersey Revolted from the Obedience of the Parliam:t hee was for his affection and adhesion thereunto (w:ch hee saith was allwayes very great) forced and constrained to fflye to ?plowet in ffrance where there is a protestant church" and practised only the protestant religion. His estate was confiscated and lost at Jersey for his loyalty to parliament "at the beginning of the late warres in England and was himselfe proclaimed traytor there; and after XXX had his wife and family banished from there"
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| − | P1090477
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| − | The said Lamprier set out and furnished a man of ware on behalfe of the said Parliam:t. This was at the consent and approbation of Collonell ?Litvott
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| − | To the 7th, 8th & 9th interoggatories. It is usual and ordianary for ships voyaging from S:t Malo to Newfound Land to carry with them passes "under the hand of Sir George Carteret the now Govero:r of Jersey" together with some inhabitants and seamen of the Island
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| − | Symo ?SebirM de JXXX Jersey Mercator
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| − | To the 1st and 2nd.
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| − | ...for all the tyme aclate and ab the space of ?thoise two yeares last past or thereabouts
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| − | the said James Laprier was and att this present ought to ?have XXX true and
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| − | lawfull owner and prprietor of one quarter &one halfe quarter parte of the shipp XXX ''Esperance''
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| − | and of there Tackle apparell and Furniture as allsoe of such part of
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| − | her ladeing of fishe and oyles and other provisios as were on bord her when
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| − | shee was seized and taken by Captaine ?Johnson in Newfoundland and for ?such
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| − | was and is comonly accompted reputed and taken wch hee knowes to bee true XX
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| − | this deponent being present when XX bought one halfe part of the said ship XXXX since that sould one q:tr of his halfe to XXXXX XXX wassd pt hee XXXX XXX buy of one Jaques Oliver of Gurnsey about 2
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| − | yeares since this deponent being at the XXXX makeing and XXXXX of XXXX
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| − | Earnest penny by them the said Lamprier XXXX for the ?sound And saizj that in or
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| − | about the moneth of Aprill last past the said James Lamprier did XXXX
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| − | and sett out his sd part in the said ship from S:t Malloe to Newfoundland XXX
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| − | a fishing voyage as is aclate and sae from thence she was to have proceeded ?and
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| − | carryed her ladeing to Bilbao and was at length from thence to returne again
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| − | to S:t Malloe for his propper use and Accompt That being a voyage usually underXXX
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| − | and ?pfpr,ed XX from S:t Malloe ?which hee knoweth being at S:t Malloe when ?the
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| − | said ship departed from thence and XXXX the said Lamprier sett out and ?furnis XXX
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| − | said parcel thereof and soe much hee saith is notXXXX XXXX XXXXXX att S:t Malloes
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| − | all such as knowe the said James Lamprier XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXX depoXXXX
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| − | Ad 3 et 4:n aclor XXXX deposeth XXXX ad XXX aclon in XXX quaad the ''Amity''
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| − | XXXX pagina spinXXXX
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| − | Ad 5:nd XXXXXX that the said James Lamprier for theise 7 yeares last past or
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| − | thereabouts hath every yeare constantly used to
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| − | sett out one or more shipps ?or his parte therein from S:t Mallo to Newfoundland and
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| − | P1090480; P1090481; P1090482
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| − | XXX for Bilbao and then fore S:t Malloe againe w:ch he knoweth haveing
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| − | lived in & neere S:t Mallo dureing all the said tyme and seeing and ?observeing
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| − | him to doe the same. And soe much he saith is publiquely and notoriously
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| − | knowne at S:t Malloe aforesaid et also XXXX
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| − | Ad 6:nd dep fuit XXX pXXXX ad 5:nd aclon aXXX prXXXXX extendXXXX
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| − | Idem ad Interr. ex pte Custod XXX quaad the ''Amity''
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| − | AXX pXXXX XX XXX quad reface se ad pradepactasua Et alr magis pticula
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| − | XXXX XXXenec
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| − | Ad 2:nd XXXX
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| − | Ad 3:nd XXXX and XXX the said James Lamprier pay
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| − | for furnishing out his pt of the said Shippe the ''Amitye'' to XX XXXXX
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| − | XX and ?abuses of XXX XX bought the same Et ale XXXXXX
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| − | Ad 4:nd ?caudet XXX ad singula
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| − | Ad 5:nd ?caudet XXXX have for this pt at present XXXX this Comonwealth
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| − | as a Trooper XX a Troope of theirs now lyeing in this Cittie and before
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| − | that XXX in S:t Malloe Et XXXXX
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| − | Ad 6:nd ?caudet negative
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| − | Ad 7:m ?cauder that the said Lampriers copartners in the said ship
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| − | the ''Amity'' doe ?live the Island of Jersey, but also some ?times
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| − | XXX to S:t Malloe to take order about the setting foreth of the said ship
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| − | each man providing for his owne pt therein Et al XXXX
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| − | Idem as Interr quoad the ''Esperance''
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| − | YY YYYY YYYY dat that hee was present when the said M:r Lamprier
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| − | bought and gave earnest money for his said pte in the said ship the ''Esperance''
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| − | to the said Jaques Oliver about Xmas last was a twelve moneths
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| − | & likewise XXXX XXXa fterwards paid some part of the money agreed
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| − | upon XXXX them for y:e same Et alX XXXX salius pXXXXX
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| − | Ad 3:nd ?caudet that hee was present and ?sawe the said James Lamprier
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| − | pay moneyes to one Mon:sr da ?casao and agree for provisions w:ch XX
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| − | used about the setting XX his said pte of the said ship to sett upon
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| − | this XXX last goeing for Newfoundland. And saith that the said da
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| − | ?Vibert XXupon the said Lampreer sould i qtrer pte of his said halfe
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| − | in the said shippe XX in the prsance of ?Jersey XXX this wise and
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| − | ?familia now remained w:ch hee saith was soe by him sould ymediately
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| − | before the goeing out to Newfoundland upon this prsent voyage XX
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| − | in w:ch she was seized At al niXXX
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| − | Ad 4:n ?caudet negative ad singular
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| − | Ad 5:nd XXXXX
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| − | Ad 6:nd ?caudet negative
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| − | Ad 7:nd ?caudet that XX other halfe Owner of the said ship the ''Esperance''
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| − | XXX M:t da Ring by name ?liveth in S:t Maloe in ffrance and hath
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| − | soe done ever since this XXXX first knowe him w:ch hee saith
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| − | bin by the tyme of XXX 3 or 4 yeares or thereabouts
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| − | XXXX SEBIRELL (his signature)
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| − | P1090483
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| − | 29:o November 1650
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| − | Sup allegacone XX ex parte Lamprire quaad the ''Amity''
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| − | NICHOLAS LE FEUBOUR da Jersey Nauta XXXX sua
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| − | 22 annXXX XX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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| − | Ad primm et 2:n aclor dicta allegaconis deponit et dictit that in and
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| − | for all the tyme aclate and for the tyme of theise 7 or XX yeares last
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| − | past or thereabouts the aclate James Lamprier was and at this present
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| − | ought to bee the true and lawfull owner and proprietor of one third part of the
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| − | ship the''Amity'' aclate and of her tackle apparell and furniture and allsoe of one
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| − | third pt of her ladeing & what other provisions XX had either abord or a XXXX
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| − | & belonging unto her at the tyme of the surprizall thereof. And by Captaine
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| − | Goad for in Newfoundland. And for such was and is commonlie reported
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| − | and taken And saith that in or about the beginning of the moneth of Aprill
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| − | last past the said James Lamprier did sett out and furnish his said 3:d part
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| − | of the said ship y:e ''Amity'' ?to ?goe upon a voyage from S:t Mallo to Newfoundland
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| − | and soe to Bilbao and back again from thence to S:t Malloe for his owne p:son
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| − | & propper Accompt. All w:ch hee knoweth for that hee this deponent hath every
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| − | yeare for theise 7 yeares XXXX knowne the said Lamprier to sett forth
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| − | and imploye his said part of the said ship to XXX XXX to goe XXX and ?Thomas
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| − | ?Libberton and XXX XXXX being XXX of XXX alike owner of pte and
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| − | seeing them soe sett out upon this p:rsent voyage from S:t Mallo by the said
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| − | James Lamprier as is predeposed. Et alX XXX depoXXXX
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| − | To the 3rd & 4th interrogratories. The ''Amity'' safely arrived in Newfound Land where "?M:r and Companie did prepare and were getting ready a very great nomber of ffishe and a great quantitie of Oyles a third pte whereof did belong unto the said James Lamprier and was for his proper accompte." But "before y:e said ffishes and oyles could bee made readie and fitt to bee brought to bee brought from thence Captan Goodson came in the ship the ''Hopefull Luke'' to Newfound Land and there seized upon the said ship and her ladeing which was makeing fitt"
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| − | P1090577
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| − | Dmnis Garrad con:a Swanley
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| − | 27:o January 1650
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| − | Sup alluX aclata ex pte XX XX dai Garrad XX
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| − | examinatat
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| − | JACOBUS MAN<ref>Jacobus Man. Probably James Man, London merchant, who in 1666 was resident on the "east Side" of Mark Lane in the parish All Hallows, Barking in a house of ten hearths. In his will, written in 1668, he stated he was "att present of the parish of Mortlake in the County of Surrey," but also mentioned "the Lease of my house scituate in Mark Lane London wherein I did lately dwell and now is in the occupation of George Boddington which I hold by Lease of the Right worshipfull Company of Drapers in London of which Company I am a member." James Man traded in a number of geographies, including Turkey, Livorno, and Jamaica. Two of his sons, James and George Man, were located in Livorno and presumably served him there as factors. At the time of writing his will, in 1668, his Jamaica based son John Man was deceased. Another son, Francis Man, went out to Jamaica at some stage, where he wrote his own will in 1674, in which he referred to extensive investments in Jamaican plantation land. Until the discovery of this HCA deposition nothing had been known about James Man's trading activities ([[MRP: James Man will| PROB 11/335 Duke 1-53 Will of James Man of Mortlake, Surrey 02 March 1671]]</ref> poire XX XXX Barking a
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| − | London Civisat Mercator XXXXCivitatis Annos agens
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| − | 67 XXX XXXXXX festis productis et juratus
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| − | Ad XXXX XXXXX ex sim dicte allegatonns deponit et dictit that hee
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| − | this deponent being a Merchant and haveing correspondencye w:th
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| − | two of this deponents sonnes and one XXXX fforster XXXX resident at Leghorne
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| − | since y:e takeing away of the Tenne Barrills of Indico in this cause
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| − | XXXover XXX from abord the ship whereof M:r ?Lisher and
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| − | others at Leghorne had Interest ?hath from theem receaved
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| − | letters of Advice wherein they did write to this effect viz:t that they
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| − | had wrote letters to y:e producent S:r Jacob Garrad, and that XXXX they
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| − | had allsoe sent them an Instrument whereby the violent ?carriage and
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| − | behaviour of the aclate Terricke and Swanly & companies might and
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| − | would XXX made manifest in the takeing away the said Indicoes
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| − | =w:ch they in the said letter say to bee ?marked w:th the said producents marke
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| − | and that they were his ?Et ?ultermis deponent that hee this deponent
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| − | hath XXX heard above merchants in this Citty avere that they had
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| − | allsoe receaved seaverall other letters from theire Agents and
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| − | Correspondents there wherein the manner of the said takeing away of
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| − | the said tenne barrells of Indico belonging to y;e said producent was
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| − | menconned and expressed. Et ale neXXX depoXXXX.
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| − | Sup reliquis uXXX Exand ex dirXXXX producen.
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| − | JACOBUS MANN paXX and YYYY Barking London
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| − | Mercator annos agens 67 XXXX XX
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| − | prductas at XXXX
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| − | Ad 2:nd et 3:nd aclas dicta allegacoins et XXXXX XXX XXXXX annex
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| − | deponit et cictit that hee this deponent receaved letters
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| − | of Advice bearing date at Leghorne upon the 2:d day of December
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| − | lasz past (New Stile) from this his deponents sonnes James and
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| − | George Man and Thomas Forster Merchants Resident in Leghorne
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| − | to this very effect and purpose viz:t Hee have received
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| − | XXX letters from S:r Jacob Garrad<ref>S:r Jacob Garrad. Sir Jacob Garrad (b. ?, d. ca. 1666), of West Ham, Essex (PROB 11/322 Mico 139-184 Will of Sir Jacob Garrad of West Ham, Essex 03 November 1666)</ref> and that this ?right answerd
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| − | them XXX doubr not to his content by sending him a substantiall
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| − | ?Lade under the Master and Boatswaines hands of M:r Lister's ship
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| − | about the Comanders of the ''Harry Bonadvanture'' and ''Hopewell''
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| − | theire violently takeing and carrying out of his ship into theire
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| − | Tenne barrells of Indico all of S:r James Garard's markes XX
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| − | XX doubt not but hee well thereby had able to recover from y:e
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| − | master sof the said shipps the full vallew of y:e said tenne Barrells
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| − | of Indico. And saith that the schedule to and in the second
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| − | arcle of the allegatton upon w:ch hee is now examined XXXX and
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| − | expressed is as hee berily believeth the Originall XXX or instrum:t
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| − | XXX sent over to y:e said producent from Leghorne w:ch since y:e
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| − | comeing thereof thither hath bin and is translated into Englishe
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| − | And saith that the second schedule allegate is as hee verily beleiveth
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| − | the Englishe Translatton of the said Italian instrument
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| − | w:ch being by him now prused hee ?clearly find to have bin soe translated
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| − | by Josua Maimet a Notary publique liveing in London and
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| − | a person to whose translations in this and other cases saith is
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| − | and hath comonly bin given XXX being a lawfull Notary
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| − | and is accompted an honest man ala XXXX depoXXXX
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| − | Supraliques non ExXXX ex XXXX XXXX
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| − | JAMES MAN [his signature]
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| − | ==General notes on browsing HCA 13/64==
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| − | • Significant number of sailors ("Nauta") making depositions and giving addresses as Saint Dunstan in the East, Billingsgate, and XXX, as well as Limehouse, Ratcliffe and Stepney.
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| − | - William Brooke of the Precinct of the Tower, mariner (19th Jan 1650/51, no fol,. No).
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| − | - Charles Frith pf the parish of St Bottoplph Bishopsgate, London ,amariner, aged 35 (17th Jan 1650/51)
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| − | - Gorge Stapleton of Charterhouse in ye parish of Great St BXXXX, mariner aged 18 (22nd jan 1650/51)
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| − | • Role of Island of Jersey in French, Newfoundland, and other trades?
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| − | • Some Suffolk deponents. A Liverpool sailor deponent. Plenty of Dutch deponents (Zeeland and elsewhere)
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| − | ==Specific deponents/cases of possible interest==
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| − | William Methwold, 23rd february 1650/51 (no f. No.)
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| − | - Case: ?Barrett and Swanley
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| − | - Mentions receiving a letter from Ligorno from factors XXX and XXX Man; refers to Thomas Fairfax & company and Martin Lister and others
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| − | Captaineus Willimus Haddocke de Wapping ..aged 43 13th Jan 1650/51; also 18th Jan 1650/51
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| − | - Refers to Captain Ell
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| − | Captain John Barker. Commander of the sghip the Gtreate Lewes of London in the service of the parliament, 14th Jan 1650/51, aged 49 years or therabouts
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| − | Franciscus DuncombeSt Dunstans in oriente London Mercator aged 22 (17th Jan 1650/51)
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| − | Johes Dickons civitatis London Marcator, anno agens 50 (20th Jan 1650)
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| − | - Refers to letter sent from Livorno on October 12th 1650, signed by Jannes and George Man and Thomas ffoster, who were merchants and factors there
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| − | - Mentions the Harry Bonadventure and the XXXwell which had departed a week before
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| − | Capt Ricardus Badiley de Wapping aged 35 (16th Jan 1650/51)<ref>Captain Richard Badiley. Possibly Richard Badiley, of Wapping, Middlesex (PROB 11/268 Ruthen 359-410 Will of Richard Badiley of Wapping, Middlesex 13 October 1657)</ref>
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| − | Robertus Johnson de civitate Dublin in Hibernia Skinner aged 50 (XX Jan 1650/51)
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| − | ==Notes==
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| − | ==Possible primary sources==
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