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	Simon de Casseres &#91;SIGNATURE, RH SIDE&#93;		Simon de Casseres &#91;SIGNATURE, RH SIDE&#93;
		+	|People='''Simon da Casseres''' [alt. Simon de casseres'''
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		+	"A note of what things are wanting in Jamaica by Simon de Casseres.
		+
		+	V.xxx. p. 299.
		+
		+	May it pleas your honour,
		+	The fortification of the harber cannott bee strong, without it bee made of stone; or bricke; theerfore such kind of artifficers should bee sent, with order to obey the captaine Hewes, whoe is a mathematicion, and sufficient in fortification; whome I left in the same poynt of the harbor fortifieing, when I came away. There is greate store of stone and lyme; which may easely bee made within two miles. The workemen to bee sent as massens or bricklayers, in my oppinion, ought to bee under the commaund of the said captaine Hewes, least by other bisnes that worke bee retarded. As for the island, it cannott bee fortified in all places; but if your honour please, you may commaund a faire foorte to be built on the Sevana by the towne, in which may be a faire maggasen to hould all your stores; the said fortte to be builded of earth, the ground being good for that purpose, and even for many miles.
		+
		+	The things necessary at present for fortifying are as following.
		+	1500 of shovells and spades.
		+	1000 pickackeses.
		+	100 whealebarrowes.
		+	100 weddegs of iron to breake stone.
		+	The things necessary for planting,
		+	5000 falling ackeses, the former being verey bad.
		+	5000 broad and narrow hookes.
		+	1000 hand billes.
		+	2000 hatchetts.
		+	200 whorte sawes.
		+	For cloths for the officers, &c
		+
		+	Store of tosted holland and fine demetye, with thred, and some plenty of lynnen for sherteing and handcerchers, with stockings and handsome shewes.
		+
		+	For the solgers,
		+	Store of shewes and corse stockens, with the ordinary sorte of cloth to make them drawers and waistscotts with sherteing. Plenty of brandey wyne, with some portion of it to bee allotted to capt. Hewes, as an incouredgment to his men in fortification.
		+
		+	For the phesetions and chirurgions, according to this invoice, that they have sent.
		+
		+	It is humbley requested, that your honour would laye your commaunds on the commaunders in that island, that captain Hewes at left may alwayes have two hundred men imployed in the worke of fortification, and likewise that hee may never bee without sufficient stores of victules for his men, which shall bee so imployed:
		+
		+	As also, that the admirall may contrebute his helpe in such boates, as shall bee required by the said Hewes for the carriage of stone, tymber, and lyme, which is most necessary in the worke of fortification.
		+
		+	That the forte, which shall bee built upon the Sevana, the contrivance in laying out of the lynne to bee by the direction of capt. Hewes.
		+	The humble proposition of Simon de Casseres.
		+
		+	V.xxx.p.151.
		+
		+	1. That his highnes would prepare fowre frigatts or shippes of warre, together with fowre victualling shippes ladden with provisions of food and ammunition, and aboute 1000 souldiers to bee imbarqued in them.
		+
		+	2. That these bee commissoned to saile into the south seas thorough the straites of LeMaire, or rather to the south of it, where it is vast sea, and roome enough.
		+
		+	3. That they saile after theire entrance into the south sea, directly to the coast of Chili, particularly to the towne of Baldivia, from whence the Spaniards have bene chased long agoe.
		+
		+	4. That they goe to the isle of la Mocha, that lyes not many leagues from it, where they may have provisions of maiz, and other food from the Indians at easy rates, and where they may attempt to make a small fort, if need bee, to secure their landing, and riding in safety under the island, where there is good anchorage, and which, if it seem good, may serve for a place of good retreat and randevouz for your ships, while in that sea and coast; for there are noe Spaniards, but only Indians, mortall enemyes to the Spaniards.
		+
		+	The benefites of such an expedition.
		+
		+	1. The countrey of Chili is unquestionably stored with gold beyond Peru, or any countrey in the world, there being few parts of it but yeeld it; among which principally are Baldivia aforementioned.
		+
		+	2. That countrey hath in it a wholsome and well–temper'd ayre, abounding in fruites, corn, cattle, fish and fowle for the life of man.
		+
		+	3. There is in this people an irreconcilable hatred against the Spanyards for theire former cruelties, and will side with any people for the rooting of them out; and are the most warlick of all the Indians.
		+
		+	4. Besides these things, the fregatts will serve to scowre the whole south sea, upon the West–Indie coast, and to take the Spanish treasure (as hath bene formerly advised) from Chili to Arica, and thence to Panama, by Lima, and Guavaquil.
		+
		+	5. They will serve to seize the two ships, which use yeerly to come from the Philippinas unto Acapulco, laden with the riches of the East–Indies of incredible value.
		+
		+	6. Hereby the Spaniard being assulted on both sides and seas at once, wil be utterly dismaied and broken, and that by farre sooner, then by falling on him only by the north sea–side.
		+
		+	In order to this, it is further humbly offered,
−	|Suggested links=[[PhD Forum|PhD Forum]]	+	1. That I. S. C. goe forthwith into Holland, and deale with some of those, who went with Brouwer in his expedition to Chili; and under pretense of goeing to Rio de la Plata, (not telling them how far beyond) to ingage them by good promises of pay and purchase, to goe such a voiage.
−	[[PhD Forum#head-94d5186ba3ec63d1ebcb1e902a2d13ac15f0c527|PhD Forum Themes]]	+
		+	2. That I shall engage some young men of my owne nation, and promise to conduct them in my owne person, by the Lord's permission; and if it seeme good unto his highnes, negotiating all this with the greatest secresy.
		+	3. It is offered alsoe with submission, that I goe in person eyther as chief in the action, or next unto him, that is chiefe therin, and upon equitable and honourable termes, as his highnes shall judge meet.
−	[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdHAyNmxuVnNmYkJ3Q0ZiNEQ0R0V2S3c#gid=0 HCA 13/71 Page Log & Planner]	+	4. That the bulk and body of the officers and company bee English; and that those of my nation, or others that shal be admitted, shall goe all upon an English account, and as Englishmen, and for his highnes service only.
−	[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoNoOr05QRMtdFlXNjQ3ekM0WW5NS1oyN250QUpJd0E#gid=0 HCA 3/47 Page Log & Planner]	+
		+	Note, that (which should have bene premised) it was resolved by the West–Indie company in Holland, upon perfect information, that noe countrey could more easily bee gained from the Spaniard then Chili; and that noe countrey would be more gainefull then that in the whole Indies, which was the ground of Brouwer's expedition thither, where he was possessed of Baldivia; but dying there, his men being of severall nations, and wanting a head, came home, and quitted the place, and left it for a noble English resolution."<ref>[http://www.british-history.ac.uk/thurloe-papers/vol4/pp47-63#h3-0025 'State Papers, 1655: September (4 of 4)', in A Collection of the State Papers of John Thurloe, Volume 4, Sept 1655 - May 1656, ed. Thomas Birch (London, 1742), pp. 47-63], accessed 18/09/2015</ref>
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To the third hee cannot depose.

To the fourth hee hath not soe deposed.

To the fifth and sixth hee hath not soe deposed, and soe they concerne
him not.

Thomas Sherwill [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]

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The 13th ffebruary 1655.

Examined upon the foresaid allegation.

The claime of the said Manuel}
Derickson in the hare in the field.}

Rp. 2

Simon da Casseres of London Merchant, aged
45 yeares or thereabouts sworne and exámined

To the sixth article of the said allegation hee saith and deposeth that hee
well knoweth the producent Manuel Derrickson, and hath soe donne for
these twenty yeares last past and upwards this deponent having for
the most part of that space lived in hamborough, where hee saith the
said Manuel hath for all the said time dwelt, and kept house there, being
there married, and was and is a merchant of good accompt, and
an inhabitant and subiect of the free state of hamborough, and for such
commonly accompted, which hee knoweth being well and familiarly acquainted
with him and having bin there very often in his house and had dealing
with him in the way of Merchandize. And otherwise hee cannot depose.
Upon the rest hee is not examined by direction of the producent.

To the Interrogatories [CENTRE HEADING]

To the first hee saith that hee this deponent was borne at Madrid in Spaine
and hath for the last seven yeares dwelt in hamberough, till lately that
hee came to London, and saving a little space of that time that he was at
the Barbada's, and otherwise negatively.

To the second hee saith the said Manuel derickson as hee taketh it is a
Portuguese by birth, and otherwise hee referreth himselfe to his foregoeing deposition.

To the third and fourth hee cannot depose knowing nothing at all of the
voyage or lading in question.

To the fifth hee hath not soe deposed.

To the sixth hee cannot depose.

To the seventh not deposed.

To the 8.9.10 and 11th hee cannot depose not knowinge ought of the
said voyage as aforesaid.

Examined before Colonell Cock

Simon de Casseres [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE]

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[[People::Simon da Casseres [alt. Simon de casseres

"A note of what things are wanting in Jamaica by Simon de Casseres.

V.xxx. p. 299.

May it pleas your honour,
The fortification of the harber cannott bee strong, without it bee made of stone; or bricke; theerfore such kind of artifficers should bee sent, with order to obey the captaine Hewes, whoe is a mathematicion, and sufficient in fortification; whome I left in the same poynt of the harbor fortifieing, when I came away. There is greate store of stone and lyme; which may easely bee made within two miles. The workemen to bee sent as massens or bricklayers, in my oppinion, ought to bee under the commaund of the said captaine Hewes, least by other bisnes that worke bee retarded. As for the island, it cannott bee fortified in all places; but if your honour please, you may commaund a faire foorte to be built on the Sevana by the towne, in which may be a faire maggasen to hould all your stores; the said fortte to be builded of earth, the ground being good for that purpose, and even for many miles.

The things necessary at present for fortifying are as following.
1500 of shovells and spades.
1000 pickackeses.
100 whealebarrowes.
100 weddegs of iron to breake stone.
The things necessary for planting,
5000 falling ackeses, the former being verey bad.
5000 broad and narrow hookes.
1000 hand billes.
2000 hatchetts.
200 whorte sawes.
For cloths for the officers, &c

Store of tosted holland and fine demetye, with thred, and some plenty of lynnen for sherteing and handcerchers, with stockings and handsome shewes.

For the solgers,
Store of shewes and corse stockens, with the ordinary sorte of cloth to make them drawers and waistscotts with sherteing. Plenty of brandey wyne, with some portion of it to bee allotted to capt. Hewes, as an incouredgment to his men in fortification.

For the phesetions and chirurgions, according to this invoice, that they have sent.

It is humbley requested, that your honour would laye your commaunds on the commaunders in that island, that captain Hewes at left may alwayes have two hundred men imployed in the worke of fortification, and likewise that hee may never bee without sufficient stores of victules for his men, which shall bee so imployed:

As also, that the admirall may contrebute his helpe in such boates, as shall bee required by the said Hewes for the carriage of stone, tymber, and lyme, which is most necessary in the worke of fortification.

That the forte, which shall bee built upon the Sevana, the contrivance in laying out of the lynne to bee by the direction of capt. Hewes.
The humble proposition of Simon de Casseres.

V.xxx.p.151.

1. That his highnes would prepare fowre frigatts or shippes of warre, together with fowre victualling shippes ladden with provisions of food and ammunition, and aboute 1000 souldiers to bee imbarqued in them.

2. That these bee commissoned to saile into the south seas thorough the straites of LeMaire, or rather to the south of it, where it is vast sea, and roome enough.

3. That they saile after theire entrance into the south sea, directly to the coast of Chili, particularly to the towne of Baldivia, from whence the Spaniards have bene chased long agoe.

4. That they goe to the isle of la Mocha, that lyes not many leagues from it, where they may have provisions of maiz, and other food from the Indians at easy rates, and where they may attempt to make a small fort, if need bee, to secure their landing, and riding in safety under the island, where there is good anchorage, and which, if it seem good, may serve for a place of good retreat and randevouz for your ships, while in that sea and coast; for there are noe Spaniards, but only Indians, mortall enemyes to the Spaniards.

The benefites of such an expedition.

1. The countrey of Chili is unquestionably stored with gold beyond Peru, or any countrey in the world, there being few parts of it but yeeld it; among which principally are Baldivia aforementioned.

2. That countrey hath in it a wholsome and well–temper'd ayre, abounding in fruites, corn, cattle, fish and fowle for the life of man.

3. There is in this people an irreconcilable hatred against the Spanyards for theire former cruelties, and will side with any people for the rooting of them out; and are the most warlick of all the Indians.

4. Besides these things, the fregatts will serve to scowre the whole south sea, upon the West–Indie coast, and to take the Spanish treasure (as hath bene formerly advised) from Chili to Arica, and thence to Panama, by Lima, and Guavaquil.

5. They will serve to seize the two ships, which use yeerly to come from the Philippinas unto Acapulco, laden with the riches of the East–Indies of incredible value.

6. Hereby the Spaniard being assulted on both sides and seas at once, wil be utterly dismaied and broken, and that by farre sooner, then by falling on him only by the north sea–side.

In order to this, it is further humbly offered,

1. That I. S. C. goe forthwith into Holland, and deale with some of those, who went with Brouwer in his expedition to Chili; and under pretense of goeing to Rio de la Plata, (not telling them how far beyond) to ingage them by good promises of pay and purchase, to goe such a voiage.

2. That I shall engage some young men of my owne nation, and promise to conduct them in my owne person, by the Lord's permission; and if it seeme good unto his highnes, negotiating all this with the greatest secresy.

3. It is offered alsoe with submission, that I goe in person eyther as chief in the action, or next unto him, that is chiefe therin, and upon equitable and honourable termes, as his highnes shall judge meet.

4. That the bulk and body of the officers and company bee English; and that those of my nation, or others that shal be admitted, shall goe all upon an English account, and as Englishmen, and for his highnes service only.

Note, that (which should have bene premised) it was resolved by the West–Indie company in Holland, upon perfect information, that noe countrey could more easily bee gained from the Spaniard then Chili; and that noe countrey would be more gainefull then that in the whole Indies, which was the ground of Brouwer's expedition thither, where he was possessed of Baldivia; but dying there, his men being of severall nations, and wanting a head, came home, and quitted the place, and left it for a noble English resolution."^[1]]]

1. ↑ 'State Papers, 1655: September (4 of 4)', in A Collection of the State Papers of John Thurloe, Volume 4, Sept 1655 - May 1656, ed. Thomas Birch (London, 1742), pp. 47-63, accessed 18/09/2015