'''TNA''' C 5/401/61 Short title: Beckford v Rand. Plaintiffs: Richard Beckford. Defendants: Andrew Rand. Subject: money matters, Kent. Document type: answer. 1657
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the time) All which hee knoweth for the reasons aforesaid; And further hee cannot depose not taking notice what goods were laden, aboard the said ship, or for whose Account; Robert Cooper [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE] *************************** Gold R[?och] and others against dobins) Smith Suckley) Examined on an allegation on behalfe of the said dobins '''Rp. 7us''' '''Robert Land''' of Ratcliff in the parish of Stepney and County of Middlesex Mariner aged 45 yeares or thereabouts a wittnesse sworne and examined saith and deposeth as followeth videlicet. To the first article of the sayd allegation hee saith hee hath bin a Mariner for these thirty yeares last past and hath had the Command of shipps as Master of them for these eighteene yeares last and more and hath in that tyme made many voyages from this Port of London to Sain Lucar Cales Mallega Carthagena and Allecant in Spaine and Lisbone in Portugall, and to Genoa and Leghorne, Venice, Zant and Zephanie and most ports in Turkey which places lye some within and some without the streights mouth, and thereby knoweth that it is frequent and customary for Masters of shipps who goe to those places to have an allowance of the laders of a royall plate (which is in English money sixe pence half penny and better) upon every duckett freight for all strangers goods and for English goods transported to Spaine three Royalls per bayle And for goods transported from any of the sayd places in Spaine to this Port of London three royalls per tonne before firming of bills of ladeing and sixe pence more pertonne at discharge of them at London And for goods transported from Ligorne Venice Genoa and Zant (being all within the streights) to London three [?Julies] per tonne which is about eighteene pence English, before firming of bills, and sixe pence a tonne more for [?we]igh goods and sixe pence a bayle for fine goods at their discharge at London which allowances are customarily paid to all Masters of shipps and their Companyes, by the names of primage and Average, and this is a thing publique and notorious amongst Marchants and Masters of shipps and all such as trade at sea And hee this deponent hath had primage and Average after the rates aforesayd paid to him and his Company by their laders, and those rates for primage and average have bin and are soe paid tyme out of mynde as hee hath heard from auncient Masters of shipps and Mariners, and the reason of such allowance of primage and Average is to encourage Masters and Companyes to bee carefull in carrying the goods aboard and well stowing of them and alsoe to oblige them to pay damage if any happen to their ladeing by their default in ill stowage or the like And further to this article hee cannot depose/ To the 2 and 3 articles of the sayd allegation saving his foregoing deposition hee cannot depose for that hee never went any Brazeele voyage./. To the 4th hee saith hee hath heard Captaine Andrew Rand who is lately gone upon a voyage to the Brazeele saye about sixe or eight weekes since, and before his departure on the sayd voyage that his Owners (for that they know there was usually
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