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and is well assured that about the tyme and tymes of lading the sayd woolls and Cochineale respectively att Cadiz as aforesayd, the sayd Christian Cloppenbergh did signe three bills of lading of one tenor for the sayd woolls and three of one tenor for the sayd Cochineal, and that two of eyther tnor came along with the sayd goods and were aboard att the tyme of seizure and that the Contents of the bills of lading now shewne him were and are true and reall and were att or neere Cadiz about the respective dayes of the dates thereof really signed by the sayd Christian Cloppenbergh. And further hee cannot depose. To the fifth sixth and seventh articles of the sayd allegation This deponent saith that he hath credibly heard and verily beleiveth that the sayd shipp was in her Course betwixt Cadiz ad Ostend seized by some of the shipps of this Commonwealth, and that the sayd woolls and Cochineale thereby came into the possession of the Takers, and otherwise referring hiselfe to his foregoeing depositions he cannot depose saving that he beleiveth for the reasons aforesayd that the sayd producents did and doe runn the sole hazard and adventure of their sayd goods respectively, and that they should have bene converted to their benefitt and use respectively by their Agents in Flanders. To the Crosse Interrogatories. To the 1. negatively. To the 2. he saith he hath knowne the producents 25 yeares or thereabouts. and saw them about September 1652 att Sevill but not att Cadiz and otherwise he cannot depose. To the .3.d he saith he saw the sayd woolls in their sayd owners possession as aforesayd. but did not see the sayd Cochineale in the possession of Anthony de Chavez To the .4. he saith the producents are both Spaniards by common repute. and further cannot depose saving as aforesayd To the .5. he sayeth he was not privy to or knowing of the buying of any the goods in question nor can give any further Accompt of the right of the Claymers to the same than as aforesayd To the .6. and .7. he saith he was not present nor saw the firming of the bills of lading interrate, but beleiveth them to be reall and true for the reasons aforesayd and otherwise cannot depose. To the 8. 9. and 10th he saith he beleiveth for the reasons aforesayd that that the producents did cause he sayd goods to be laden. and further being not aboard att the lading thereof he cannot depose. To the .11. negatively To the 12. he saith he cannot depose otherwise than as aforesayd. To the .13. he saith he was borne att Madrid, and inhabited att Limma aforesayd. and otherwise negatively. To the .14. he saith he cannot depose otherwise than he hath predeposed To the 15. 16. 17. and 18. he saith he knoweth nothing thereof. To the 19. negatively. To the 20. 21. and 22th he saith that he was not present att the signing or delivery of the sayd bills of lading and therefore cannot depose to theis Interrogatoryes any otherise than as aforesayd. Anth[?XXX] [?XXX] de [?XXXX] [SIGNATURE, RH SIDE] Roger Kilvert [SIGNATURE, LH SIDE] Sam Delaplace [SIGNATURE, LH SIDE] Repeated in Court before the Judges [ADD DATA]
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