Women's investment activities and record keeping - Revision history

ColinGreenstreet at 08:53, November 24, 2021

2021-11-24T08:53:49Z

ColinGreenstreet: /* Wife of master of ship received money for him and cancelled a bond through the power of a letter of attorney from her husband [1631] */

2021-11-23T09:31:15Z

‎Wife of master of ship received money for him and cancelled a bond through the power of a letter of attorney from her husband [1631]

ColinGreenstreet at 17:40, November 22, 2021

2021-11-22T17:40:17Z

ColinGreenstreet: /* Mariner's widow had his journal at home, twelve years after his death [1684] */

2021-11-16T19:21:06Z

‎Mariner's widow had his journal at home, twelve years after his death [1684]

ColinGreenstreet at 15:56, November 16, 2021

2021-11-16T15:56:04Z

ColinGreenstreet at 12:07, November 16, 2021

2021-11-16T12:07:17Z

Show changes

ColinGreenstreet at 11:51, November 16, 2021

2021-11-16T11:51:30Z

ColinGreenstreet: /* Wife of master's mate received a note from her husband detailing investment in goods on his ship [XXXX] */

2021-11-16T09:57:13Z

‎Wife of master's mate received a note from her husband detailing investment in goods on his ship [XXXX]

ColinGreenstreet at 09:51, November 16, 2021

2021-11-16T09:51:56Z

ColinGreenstreet: /* Wapping land lady does accounts of an anchorsmith [1655] */

2021-11-16T09:34:55Z

‎Wapping land lady does accounts of an anchorsmith [1655]

@@ Line 29: / Line 29: @@
 :: "This deponent being the widdow of Josias Hare, late comander of the ship ''John and Mary'' about nine yeares since deceased did at the request of the wife of Anthony Couch (a prisoner as is sayd in Lisbon) search in her said deceased husband's journall to see what time the said Anthony Couch entred aboard and when discharged. And shee sayth that in the journall for a voyage to the Canaryes shee did find that Anthony Couch did enter into the service of the said shipp in the middle of 1672 and was discharged therefrom in May following 1673"<ref>HCA 13/79 unfol Image: 20191231_130624</ref>
 ----
 ==Wapping land lady does accounts of an anchorsmith [1655]==

@@ Line 106: / Line 106: @@
 ==Wife of master of ship received money for him and cancelled a bond through the power of a letter of attorney from her husband [1631]==
-'''Nathaniel Goodlad, thirty-eight year opld mariner, and presumed master of a ship, left a letter of attorney with his wife to receive money on his behalf. His wife received money in settlement of a debt to her husband, paid by the executor of a deceased mariner's estate, and also cancelled a bond her husband held under the hand of the deceased mariner for that debt.'''
+'''Nathaniel Goodlad, thirty-eight year old mariner, and presumed master of a ship, left a letter of attorney with his wife to receive money on his behalf. His wife received money in settlement of a debt to her husband, paid by the executor of a deceased mariner's estate, and also cancelled a bond her husband held under the hand of the deceased mariner for that debt.'''
 :: "Richard Harris the elder late of Leigh in the Countye of Essex mariner deceased at the tyme of his decease did really and truelye owe and was indebted unto this examinate the somme of one hundred and fiftye pounds of lawfull money of England by bond, and likewise the somme of twentye five pounds for timber had of this deponent, and for the use of the sayd moneyes the somme of £12 more, in all one hundred fowerscore and seaven pounds sterlinge, which sayd somme of £187 Richard Harris the producent as executor of the sayd deceased s will hath since his death reallye payd and satisfyed unto this deponents wife in the absence of this deponent beinge then at sea, and theruppon the bond aforesayd is cancelled and delivered unto the sayd producent, who is likewise released and discharged of and from the rest of debts aforesayd by vertue of a leyyer of atturney lefte by this deponent with his wife which he hath and doth ratifye confirme and allowe of"<ref>HCA 13/49 f.436r</ref>
 ----
 ==Wife of master of ship received money for him and familiar with his books of account [1649]==

@@ Line 103: / Line 103: @@
 :: "Isabell Seaman wife to the said Captaine Seaman liveing at Wapping in the County of Middlesex aged 47 yeares...After the returne of the shipp the ''Sampson'' interrate, (whereof this deponents husband Captaine Seaman interrate was commander) from Smyrna to Legorne, this rendent received severall letters from her said husband at Legorne, some or one whereof did import and require this rendent to enquire by her selfe or freinds, whether the policy entred in the Assurance Office here concerneing the trading voiage of the said shipp did stand good And saith, that none of the said letters did import any thing otherwise or contrary to what is predeposed saving that the said shipp ''Sampson'' was to be employed in the service of this Commonwealth against the Dutch. And that upon that occasion the said Captaine Seaman desired to knowe whether the said policy of assurance would stand and continue valid and effectuall till the said shipps returne for England, whereof this rendent being affirmatively assured returned an answer accordingly to her said husband...In prosecution of her said husbands order shee desired the interrate Mr Hoxton Justice of Peace to enquire on what condition the said policy of assurance stood, but as to the demannds made by the assurers to the said Justice Hoxton as is interrate shee saith shee is utterly ignorant thereof...To the best of this rendents remembrance shee never returned any answer to her said husband upon the report of the said Justice Hoxton, but having by some others of the freinds understood, that the said policy of assurance did stand firme and valid shee did as aforesaid intimate so much by letter unto her said husband then at Legorne...Shee never received any letter or letters from her said husband to the effect interrate. And further shee cannot depose...Shee hath no letter or letters remaining in her custodie to the effect interrate, nor doeth shee knowe where any such letter or letters are, adressed to her selfe or any other person whatsoever for or concerning the businesse aforesaid, nor hath shee or any other person of her knowledge kept any copie or copies of letters sent by her to her said husband concerning this or any other businesse, nor can shee recollect her memory so farr, as to be able to expresse the particular contents of the letters mutually sent and received to and from her said husband during the transactions in question otherwise then as aforesaid... Shee never heard her husband Captaine Seaman interrate say, that hee had ever expressed any forwardnesse, or made any voluntary proffer to engage his said shipp in the service interrate, but that hee was by authority and commannd from Mr Longland the then Agent of Legorne for this Commonwealth forced and impressed into the said service, and that to the effect and order by the said agents procurement was read and published at the maine mast of his said shipp then at Legorne."<ref>HCA 13/70 ff.224v-225r</ref>
 ----
 ==Wife of master of ship received money for him and familiar with his books of account [1649]==

@@ Line 23: / Line 23: @@
 :: "In the moneth of September last past was twelve moneths the arlate Mathewe Graves and Alexander Heard beinge at the house of this deponents father in lawe Ellis Piggens a plasterer scituate in Cheswell street within the parish of Saint Giles Cripplegate London, the sayd Graves and Herd had speech and conference about some worke (as it was sayd) donne by the sayd Graves uppon the arlate shipp the ''Hope for Grace'', and the sayd Herd did then and there affirme that the sayd Graves had donne him a greate deale of wronge and dammage in not performinge the worke uppon the sayd shipp within the tyme limited, and that he had therby lost a voyage which he had undertaken for merchants, and that another man had made a voyage to the same place where he was bounde since the tyme limited for the doeinge of the worcke was expired, and afterwards the sayd Heard layd downe some gould, and did bidd the sayd Graves to take the sayd gould in full staisfaction for all the worke donne by him uppon the sayd shipp or else to lett it alone, and then the sayd Graves tooke up the sayd gould and sayd that he would take it in parte of payment, bu the sayd Heard bidd him to take it as he tendred it in full satisfaction or else to lay it downe agayne, but the sayd Graves would not laye it downe agayne but sayd he would take it in part, and soe caryed it awaye agayne with him there beinge then an there present, this deponent and his said father in lawe and his mother and this deponents wife whome the said Heard entreated to beare witnes that he payd Gravesthe sayd money in full said satisfaction"<ref>HCA 13/50 f.451r</ref>
 ----
-==Mariner's widow had his journal at home, twelve years after his death [1684]==
+==Mariner's widow had his journal at home, nine years after his death [1684]==
 '''Margaret Hare, the widow of another mariner, who has been commander of the ''John and Mary'', searched her deceased husband’s records, at the request of the wife of Anthony Couch, who had made a similar request to Martha Cock as above. The year of her examination was 1684, but the journal she found and read covered 1672 and 1673, twelve years earlier.'''
@@ Line 29: / Line 29: @@
 :: "This deponent being the widdow of Josias Hare, late comander of the ship ''John and Mary'' about nine yeares since deceased did at the request of the wife of Anthony Couch (a prisoner as is sayd in Lisbon) search in her said deceased husband's journall to see what time the said Anthony Couch entred aboard and when discharged. And shee sayth that in the journall for a voyage to the Canaryes shee did find that Anthony Couch did enter into the service of the said shipp in the middle of 1672 and was discharged therefrom in May following 1673"<ref>HCA 13/79 unfol Image: 20191231_130624</ref>
 ----
 ==Wapping land lady does accounts of an anchorsmith [1655]==

@@ Line 5: / Line 5: @@
 '''Our examples include Joane Reed, the land lady of an anchorsmith, who kept the accounts of that anchorsmith, whose premisses were in the same building as her. Her involvement in record keeping is intriguing, since one of the anchorsmith's workers was clearly literate, but the responsibility for the books was in the hands of Joane Reed.'''
-'''Our examples also include evidence of women preserving their husbands records, both books of account and journals, for more than ten years after the creation of the records. The specific examples are those of Margaret Hare, widow of Josias Hare (comander of the ship ''John and Mary''), who preserved her husband's journal; and Martha Cock, wife of John Cock (master of the ''Laurell Tree'', who consulted her husband's book of accounts while he was away in Carolina.'''
+'''Our examples also include evidence of women preserving their husbands records, both books of account and journals, for more than ten years after the creation of the records. The specific examples are those of Margaret Hare, widow of Josias Hare (commander of the ship ''John and Mary''), who preserved her husband's journal; and Martha Cock, wife of John Cock (master of the ''Laurell Tree'', who consulted her husband's book of accounts while he was away in Carolina.'''
 ----
 __TOC__

@@ Line 17: / Line 17: @@
 :: "In the moneth of September last past was twelve moneths the arlate Mathewe Graves and Alexander Heard beinge at the house of this deponents father in lawe Ellis Piggens a plasterer scituate in Cheswell street within the parish of Saint Giles Cripplegate London, the sayd Graves and Herd had speech and conference about some worke (as it was sayd) donne by the sayd Graves uppon the arlate shipp the ''Hope for Grace'', and the sayd Herd did then and there affirme that the sayd Graves had donne him a greate deale of wronge and dammage in not performinge the worke uppon the sayd shipp within the tyme limited, and that he had therby lost a voyage which he had undertaken for merchants, and that another man had made a voyage to the same place where he was bounde since the tyme limited for the doeinge of the worcke was expired, and afterwards the sayd Heard layd downe some gould, and did bidd the sayd Graves to take the sayd gould in full staisfaction for all the worke donne by him uppon the sayd shipp or else to lett it alone, and then the sayd Graves tooke up the sayd gould and sayd that he would take it in parte of payment, bu the sayd Heard bidd him to take it as he tendred it in full satisfaction or else to lay it downe agayne, but the sayd Graves would not laye it downe agayne but sayd he would take it in part, and soe caryed it awaye agayne with him there beinge then an there present, this deponent and his said father in lawe and his mother and this deponents wife whome the said Heard entreated to beare witnes that he payd Gravesthe sayd money in full said satisfaction"<ref>HCA 13/50 f.451r</ref>
 ----
 ==Wapping land lady does accounts of an anchorsmith [1655]==
@@ Line 36: / Line 43: @@
 : "In the yeares 1633 and 1634 and part of the yeare 1635 the arlate Thomas Sherwin since deceased was master of the arlate shippe the ''Scipio'', which shee knoweth to bee true, for that all that tyme shee was the wife of the said Thomas Sherwin and was divers tymes within that tyme aboard the said ship with her said husband…Within the tyme arlate the said Thomas Sherwin sett saile with the said shippe from this port of London bounde upon a voyage to the Streights, and puttinge into Allecante outwards bounde that voyage the said Thomas Sherwin as appears by his letters written to this examinate from thence and from his speeches since was there arrested and imprisoned, but his shippe rideing then without commander there, [?XXXXed] and sett  saile from thence on her intended voyage  under the command of the arlate Humphrey Barrett being then the said Sherwin’s chief mate...Since the said voyage was ended shee hath often heard the said Barrett confesse that hee caused the said anchors to bee put on shoare at Venice and lefte them ther in the hands of one Yates a merchant, and shewed this examinate a noate which hee said hee had from the said Yates for the receipte of those anchors, and that noate the said Barrett the nexte voyage carried forth with him in the said shippe being the bounde to Venice, and from Venice that voyage the said Barrett wrott a letter to this examinate her husband being then dead whereby hee did advise her that it was not known but that those anchors were  her husbandes, and that one of them was souled, and that the party with whom he the said Barrett lefte those anchors was dead, but had lefte sufficient to pay every body."<ref>HCA 13/58 ff.506v-507r</ref>
 ----
 ==Wife of master's mate received a note from her husband detailing investment in goods on his ship [1640]==

@@ Line 37: / Line 37: @@
 : "In the yeares 1633 and 1634 and part of the yeare 1635 the arlate Thomas Sherwin since deceased was master of the arlate shippe the ''Scipio'', which shee knoweth to bee true, for that all that tyme shee was the wife of the said Thomas Sherwin and was divers tymes within that tyme aboard the said ship with her said husband…Within the tyme arlate the said Thomas Sherwin sett saile with the said shippe from this port of London bounde upon a voyage to the Streights, and puttinge into Allecante outwards bounde that voyage the said Thomas Sherwin as appears by his letters written to this examinate from thence and from his speeches since was there arrested and imprisoned, but his shippe rideing then without commander there, [?XXXXed] and sett  saile from thence on her intended voyage  under the command of the arlate Humphrey Barrett being then the said Sherwin’s chief mate...Since the said voyage was ended shee hath often heard the said Barrett confesse that hee caused the said anchors to bee put on shoare at Venice and lefte them ther in the hands of one Yates a merchant, and shewed this examinate a noate which hee said hee had from the said Yates for the receipte of those anchors, and that noate the said Barrett the nexte voyage carried forth with him in the said shippe being the bounde to Venice, and from Venice that voyage the said Barrett wrott a letter to this examinate her husband being then dead whereby hee did advise her that it was not known but that those anchors were  her husbandes, and that one of them was souled, and that the party with whom he the said Barrett lefte those anchors was dead, but had lefte sufficient to pay every body."<ref>HCA 13/58 ff.506v-507r</ref>
 ----
-==Wife of master's mate received a note from her husband detailing investment in goods on his ship [XXXX]==
+==Wife of master's mate received a note from her husband detailing investment in goods on his ship [1640]==
 '''Not all written communications between husbands and wives were in the form of letters. For example, Elizabeth Tyson, the literate widow of James Sladd, mariner, received a note from her husband on his setting out to sea, listing her husband’s investment in goods. James Sladd had been master’s mate of the ''Abigall'' of London, which was cast away returning to London from Saint Christophers.  The investment, on the behalf of both Sladd and friends, came to the large sum of £100.'''
@@ Line 45: / Line 45: @@
 :: "Her husband gave her a noate of what goods hee had laden aboard the said shippe for his owne accounte and his friends for whome hee was intrusted which noate shee deliverd to the partie producent and out of which noate shee believeth the arlate schedule was extracted"<ref>HCA 13/55 f.603v</ref>
 ----
 ==Wife paid a bill of exchange for her husband [1624]==

@@ Line 25: / Line 25: @@
 "Shee this deponent liveth in howse whereof the arlate Jeremia Cotts shopp is a part and shee hath done for these 14 or 15 yeares shee being landlady of the sayd Cotts shopp and by reason of her soe being in howse the sayd Cott doth usually imploy this deponent to sett downe such wares as hee delivereth out and are bought of him for the use of shipps (hee being an anchor smith) and by this meanes shee well knoweth that in the moneths of July August and September one thousand sixe hundred fiftie three there were delivered to the arlate Mr Keech (who was then reputed to be master of the arlate shipp the Minories) for the use of the sayd shipp nayles and other iron worke amounting to the value of sixe pounds two shillings three pence sterling which nayles and Iron worke this deponent entred into the sayd Cott's booke as sold at that rate, and sawe the sayd iron worke weighed and the sayd nayles and it delivered to the sayd Keech at severall tymes within the moneths aforesayd"<ref>HCA 13/70 f.696r</ref>
 ----
 ==Widow of a mariner needed to recover a book from the papers of another deceased mariner John Norris [1603]==
@@ Line 31: / Line 30: @@
 :: [Regarding the allegation and book exhibited] "He affirmed that aboute three yeares past one John Norris a mariner beinge att sea died and by his will gave all that he had as he remembreth to Simon Pinder and Jane his wiffe who is nowe wife to the articulated John Triggis, and thereuppon this examinate was requested by the said Jane Pinder, nowe Jane Trigges whether togeather with a gold smithe called George [?Jole] to appraise such goods as the said John Norris had in his house in Ratcliffe and in perusinge such bookes and papers as were in the said house amongst the rest the booke exhibited nowe shewed unto him at the tyme of his examination was founde in an upper cubbard, and the same booke this examinate intreated the said Jane Pinder to bestowe uppon him for that there was cleane paper therein which he had occasion to use, and she accordingly gave it unto him and the same booke he ever since kepte untill he was served with a proces to appeare in this Court and then he delivered the said booke  to the said Joane for that she sayd it concerned her, And he sayth that the severall notes sett downe in the 2nd and 6th leaves of the said booke firmed in the name per me William Jones in some places and in one place by Mr William Jones were in the said booke so written and sett downe as by the said booke appeareth when the said booke came to this examinates handes"<ref>HCA 13/36 f.71r</ref>
 ----
 ==Wife paid a bill of exchange for her husband [1624]==
@@ Line 52: / Line 65: @@
 : "The wife of the said Plover consented and gave order to this deponent to make the said intimation, in this manner videlicet, the said Plovers said wife comeing somwhat before the said 24th of August 1649 to this deponent to his house in Thames streete London and bringing the rest of the premium money that was due to the said Mr Morewood for six monethes, this deponent told her that nowe hee conceived the shipp was out of danger, and therefore shee should doe well to take off the assurance and save money, and that shee might reviewe it againe about three or foure monethes after if shee sawe cause, and that at a better rate, or to that effect, which motion shee well approved, and gave this deponent order to take it off and make the intimation aforesaid, which accordingly did bona fide, with honest intention and without any manner of fraude or deceipt...After the said notice soe given by this deponent to the said Plover his wife of the said intimation, and ceasing of the said Mr Gilbert Morewoods said adventure, there was a newe pollicie procured by her and such as shee imployed upon the said shipp, which shee said was subscribed by the interrate Mr Alderman Dethick as an assurer, and after the procureing thereof this deponent asking her for £50 which her husband ought him, shee showed him the said newe pollicie and said here is your money secured, and this was at the Maremaide taverne in Cornhill. And after the premisses a losse happening to the said shipp after the 24th of August 1649, the said assurers upon the said newe pollicie as shee told him came to composition with her, and paid her £60 per centum for her money assured"<ref>HCA 13/63 f.390v</ref>
 ----
 ==Wife of master of ship received money for him and familiar with his books of account [1649]==