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	[[Injury and death\|Injury and death]]		[[Injury and death\|Injury and death]]

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 . money and soe goe on shoare and leave the sayd shipp or words to that effect,
 . whereto the sayd Daniell harman speaking to the sayd May ˹in behalfe of himselfe and this deponent˺ sayd"
 * "...they could not have to doe therein, for if they

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-. that none should meddle with him but the sayd Master, And hee
+. ... And hee
 . further sayeth that ˹some dayes˺ after the sayd May had soe desired this deponents
 . assistance as is before declared, the sayd May being standing by the

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		+	27. that none should meddle with him but the sayd Master, And hee
		+	28. further sayeth that ˹some dayes˺ after the sayd May had soe desired this deponents
		+	29. assistance as is before declared, the sayd May being standing by the
		+	30. Bitts of the sayd shipp accompanied with this deponent and this
		+	31. precontest Daniell harman and the sayd Swinburne the Boateswaine,
		+	32. the sayd May entered into discourse concerning wages, and sayd
		+	33. the sayd Master had denyed him his wages, and sayd that if they
		+	34. this deponent and the sayd harman and Swinburne would bee
		+	35. ruled by him
		+	36. hee knew there was money sufficient ˹and more˺ in the Stearne sheates to pay
		+	37. them their him and them their wages and that when the sayd shipp should
		+	38. arrive at Meslapatam they would pay them selves their due out of
		+	39. it whereto the sayd Boatswaine
		+	40. replyed that it was better to lett it rest and doe nothing therein till
		+	41. they came at Meslepotam whether the shipp was to goe, and then hee the sayd
		+	42. Boatswaine could pick a boates crue to carrie the Marchants and Master
		+	43. on shoare, and then they might and would pay them selves out of that
		+	44. money and soe goe on shoare and leave the sayd shipp or words to that effect,
		+	45. whereto the sayd Daniell harman speaking to the sayd May ˹in behalfe of himselfe and this deponent˺ sayd"

	* "...they could not have to doe therein, for if they		* "...they could not have to doe therein, for if they

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 - ''HCA 13/71 f.562r Case: Goodwin and Company against the goods taken in the shipp of Saint John (whereof derricke Rim was Master) and against Symon and Lewis Rodrigies da Sousa and others comming in for their interest; Deposition: 1. Peter de Bart of London Merchant aged twenty five yeares; Date: 14/01/1656 (1657)''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=911&scripto_doc_page_id=1171 HCA 13/71 f.562r]</ref>
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 ==Master striking a crew member==

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-==Masters striking crew members==
+==Fear of beating by privateers==
 Captain Braining's ship, the Fortune, was wrecked on rocks on the way to Grand Malaga.  William Andersonn , a gunner on the ship, from Stockdon in the Bishoprick of Durham, alleged that Braining's vicious temper led to a savage attack on the boatswayn on the day of the wreck.  This attack, according to Andersonn, incapactitated the boatswayn, and contributed to the loss of the ship.
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 - ''HCA 13/71 f.132r Case: Examined upon an allegation on the behalfe of the sayd Tilley Vanden=Posl and Company; Deposition: 2. William Andersonn of Stockdon within the Bishoprick of Durham late Gunner of the sayd shipp the Fortune aged ninetyene yeares; Date: 02/04/1656''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=363&scripto_doc_page_id=1422 HCA 13/71 f.132r]</ref>
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-==Fear of beating by privateers==
+==Threat of violence on board ship==
-Peter de Bart was one of three London merchants who shipped themselves on a Dutch ship registered in Rotterdam, which was travelling from fflushing in Zealand to Roane in France. Catching sight of an Ostend man of war just past Calais the master of their ship warned them that "notwithstanding the league made between the King of Spaine and the Lords of the United Provinces", it was common for men of warr belonging to the King of Spain or his subjects to board Dutch ships. Passengers and crew scrambled to hide their valuables, and feared violence.
+The Master of the Vine had fallen out with his Mate, in a strange case of compass envy. The mate possessed an Azimuth compass in his cabin which the Master coveted, it being better than his own. Moreover, the Mater, James Barker, considered his Mate incapable of using the compass properly. A row ensued when the mate refused the Master use of the compass. Pnishment was threatened by the Master, but the crew gathered handspikes.
-" "40. The sayd Master hidd his money in his stockings, and this
+* "34. That the sayd James Barker the Master of the sayd shipp the ˹Vine˺
-. deponent alsoe hidd what money hee had ˹the most of it being Gold˺ in Cranyes or chinkes in
+. being bound upon a voyage with his sayd shipp the Vine to the East Indies
-. the Cabbin and kept only one dollar or two about him, that soe if they
+. while the sayd shipp was in her outward bound voyage thither there
-. did search him hee might escape beateing by them, if being (as the
+. happened some differences betwixt the sayd Master and ˹John˺
-. sayd dutch shipps company sayd) a usuall thinge with them when they
+. his Mate and saith the sayd mate being discontented did speake to this
-. found noe money about a man to beate and abuse him..."
+. deponent (hee being ˹being by his turne˺ to goe upon the deck to keepe watch) and desyred him
-- ''HCA 13/71 f.562r Case: Goodwin and Company against the goods taken in the shipp of Saint John (whereof derricke Rim was Master) and against Symon and Lewis Rodrigies da Sousa and others comming in for their interest; Deposition: 1. Peter de Bart of London Merchant aged twenty five yeares; Date: 14/01/1656 (1657)<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=911&scripto_doc_page_id=1171 HCA 13/71 f.562r]</ref>
+- ''HCA 13/71 f.307v Case: Informations given by Captaine James Barker Master of the shipp the Vine of London touching certaine Misdemeanors committed by John May his Mate of the sayd shipp in a voyage therein to the East Indies: Deposition: Edward Carr of Westow in the County of durham, Mariner at first a Common Mariner and afterwards Boatswaines Mate of the sayd shipp the Vine aged twenty one yeares; Date: 10/07/1656''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=807&scripto_doc_page_id=847 HCA 13/71 f.307v]</ref>

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	- ''HCA 13/71 f.132r Case: Examined upon an allegation on the behalfe of the sayd Tilley Vanden=Posl and Company; Deposition: 2. William Andersonn of Stockdon within the Bishoprick of Durham late Gunner of the sayd shipp the Fortune aged ninetyene yeares; Date: 02/04/1656''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=363&scripto_doc_page_id=1422 HCA 13/71 f.132r]</ref>		- ''HCA 13/71 f.132r Case: Examined upon an allegation on the behalfe of the sayd Tilley Vanden=Posl and Company; Deposition: 2. William Andersonn of Stockdon within the Bishoprick of Durham late Gunner of the sayd shipp the Fortune aged ninetyene yeares; Date: 02/04/1656''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=363&scripto_doc_page_id=1422 HCA 13/71 f.132r]</ref>
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		+	==Fear of beating by privateers==
		+
		+	Peter de Bart was one of three London merchants who shipped themselves on a Dutch ship registered in Rotterdam, which was travelling from fflushing in Zealand to Roane in France. Catching sight of an Ostend man of war just past Calais the master of their ship warned them that "notwithstanding the league made between the King of Spaine and the Lords of the United Provinces", it was common for men of warr belonging to the King of Spain or his subjects to board Dutch ships. Passengers and crew scrambled to hide their valuables, and feared violence.
		+
		+	" "40. The sayd Master hidd his money in his stockings, and this
		+	41. deponent alsoe hidd what money hee had ˹the most of it being Gold˺ in Cranyes or chinkes in
		+	42. the Cabbin and kept only one dollar or two about him, that soe if they
		+	43. did search him hee might escape beateing by them, if being (as the
		+	44. sayd dutch shipps company sayd) a usuall thinge with them when they
		+	45. found noe money about a man to beate and abuse him..."
		+
		+	- ''HCA 13/71 f.562r Case: Goodwin and Company against the goods taken in the shipp of Saint John (whereof derricke Rim was Master) and against Symon and Lewis Rodrigies da Sousa and others comming in for their interest; Deposition: 1. Peter de Bart of London Merchant aged twenty five yeares; Date: 14/01/1656 (1657)<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=911&scripto_doc_page_id=1171 HCA 13/71 f.562r]</ref>

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−	- HCA 13/71 f.132r Case: Examined upon an allegation on the behalfe of the sayd Tilley Vanden=Posl and Company.; Deposition: 2. William Andersonn of Stockdon within the Bishoprick of Durham late Gunner of the sayd shipp the Fortune aged ninetyene yeares; Date: 02/04/1656<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=363&scripto_doc_page_id=1422 HCA 13/71 f.132r]</ref>	+	- ''HCA 13/71 f.132r Case: Examined upon an allegation on the behalfe of the sayd Tilley Vanden=Posl and Company; Deposition: 2. William Andersonn of Stockdon within the Bishoprick of Durham late Gunner of the sayd shipp the Fortune aged ninetyene yeares; Date: 02/04/1656''<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=363&scripto_doc_page_id=1422 HCA 13/71 f.132r]</ref>

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		+	==Masters striking crew members==
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		+	Captain Braining's ship, the Fortune, was wrecked on rocks on the way to Grand Malaga. William Andersonn , a gunner on the ship, from Stockdon in the Bishoprick of Durham, alleged that Braining's vicious temper led to a savage attack on the boatswayn on the day of the wreck. This attack, according to Andersonn, incapactitated the boatswayn, and contributed to the loss of the ship.
		+
		+	"16. To the 8th article of the sayd allegation he saith that the morning of the day (whereupon
		+	17. the sayd shipp was lost as aforesayd) the sayd Braining the Master without
		+	18. any provocation given him fell in furious manner upon the Boatswayn
		+	19. of the sayd shipp and with a stick or Cudgell knockt him on the
		+	20. head and wounded him very sore, to the endangereing of his life
		+	21. so as he became unable to give any assistance when the shipp was
		+	22. ˹in˺danger. for lack of whose helpe and the losse of the sayd shipp
		+	23. was in some sort occasioned, which he knoweth to be true being then
		+	24. and there present and seeing the depth and danger of the sayd wound
		+	25. given as aforesayd to the sayd Boatswayn. And otherwise hee cánnot
		+	26. depose."
		+
		+	- HCA 13/71 f.132r Case: Examined upon an allegation on the behalfe of the sayd Tilley Vanden=Posl and Company.; Deposition: 2. William Andersonn of Stockdon within the Bishoprick of Durham late Gunner of the sayd shipp the Fortune aged ninetyene yeares; Date: 02/04/1656<ref>[http://marinelives-transcript.org/scripto/scripto/?scripto_action=transcribe&scripto_doc_id=363&scripto_doc_page_id=1422 HCA 13/71 f.132r]</ref>