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|Deposition date(s)=Mar 4 1659
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==Biographical synthesis==
Thomas Pinshurst (b. ca. 1624; d. ca. 1686). Shipwright.

Went carpenter's mate on the ship the ''Scipio'' for much of the period 1648 to 1651.<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.76v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.76v]]</ref>

Resident in 1659 in Redriff in the county of Surrey.

The will of Thomas Pinshurst, shipwright, of Rotherhithe, Surrey, was proved on June 10th 1686.<ref>PROB 11/383/292 Will of Thomas Pinshurst, Shipwright of Rotherhithe, Surrey 10 June 1686</ref>

==Evidence from High Court of Admiralty==
Thirty-five year old Thomas Pinshurst deposed on March 4th 1659 in the High Court of Admiralty. He was examined in the case of "humfrey ffosse John Tucker and Charles Howgate late mariners of the shipp the ''Scipio'' against Thomas Ewen the Captaine thereof".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.76v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.76v]]</ref>

Thomas Pinshurst stated that he was carpenter's mate aboard the ship the ''Scipio'' (Master: Thomas Ewen) for much of the period between 1648 and 1651. In 1648 and early 1649 the ''Scipio'' had been bound from the port of London on a voyage to the Mediterranean and then back to London. At the time of being hired by Thomas Ewen, Pinshurst claimed that he had no design to take the ship to Brazil or the West Indies.<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.76v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.76v]]</ref>
The ''Scipio'' sailed from London and discharged her outward lading in Genoa. She also went to Alicante, where she reladed and sailed to Lisbon, where she discharged her second lading.

At Lisbon " hee this deponent was paid off and satisfied his wages then due which was eight moneths pay, and hee beleeveth the sayd fosse Tucker and Howgate and other the Mariners who served in her were there alsoe paid eight months pay". However, when at Lisbon, Thomas Ewen then told his company that he intended a new voyage to be made from Lisbon to Brazil, "which voyage the Company or the greatest part of them did dislike in soe much that the Master Thomas Ewen having sent some goods to the shipps side to be taken aboard her in order to proceede on the sayd voyage for Brazeele the sayd Humfrey Fosse the boatswaine an severall others of the sayd shipps company did refuse to take the sayd goods aboard soe that the boates that brought them were fayne to depart with them from the shipps side".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref>

To persuade the mariners of the ''Scipio'' to agree to the new voyage from Lisbon to Brazil, Thomas Ewens "the better to perswade the shipps Company to goe for Brazeele freely offer to advance the wages of the Mariners of the sayd shipp and to add to the same five shillings in the pound per month for every of their wages over and above the wages that they were to receive by his agreement made with them in England". According to William Marriot this did the trick and the mariners acepted the terms and the voyage. William Marriot stated that he himself returned from Brazil to Lisbon after the voyage oin the ''Scipio'', but " fosse and howgate and divers others of the Scipio her company and also the sayd Thomas Ewens the Master of her were by Portugeses taken from aboard the Scipio and put aboard other Portugese shipps to come in them back for Lisbon and Portugeses put in their stead to come for Lisbon in the Scipio, which hee saith hee beleeveth the Portugeses did only for the better securing their goods that if the English in their service had any designe to goe away with their shipps and the goods laden aboard them they might thereby be prevented for that after the Scipio came to Lisbon the Portugeses suffered the ''Scipio'' her company to returne aboard her".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref> Pinshurst concluded by saying "hee never heard that any of the companyes of the other English shipps that went the sayd Brazeele voyage in Company
of the ''Scipio'' had any encrease of pay".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77v]]</ref>

==Comment on sources==
'''1686'''

PROB 11/383/292 Will of Thomas Pinshurst, Shipwright of Rotherhithe, Surrey 10 June 1686

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 At Lisbon "hee this deponent was paid off and satisfied his wages then due which was eight moneths pay, and hee beleeveth the sayd Fosse Tucker and Howgate and other the mariners who served in her were there alsoe paid eight months pay". However, when at Lisbon, Thomas Ewen then told his company that he intended a new voyage to be made from Lisbon to Brazil, "which voyage the company or the greatest part of them did dislike in soe much that the master Thomas Ewen having sent some goods to the shipps side to be taken aboard her in order to proceede on the sayd voyage for Brazeele the sayd Humfrey Fosse the boatswaine an severall others of the sayd shipps company did refuse to take the sayd goods aboard soe that the boates that brought them were fayne to depart with them from the shipps side".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref>
-To persuade the mariners of the ''Scipio'' to agree to the new voyage from Lisbon to Brazil, Thomas Ewens "the better to perswade the shipps Company to goe for Brazeele freely offer to advance the wages of the Mariners of the sayd shipp and to add to the same five shillings in the pound per month for every of their wages over and above the wages that they were to receive by his agreement made with them in England". According to William Marriot this did the trick and the mariners acepted the terms and the voyage. William Marriot stated that he himself returned from Brazil to Lisbon after the voyage oin the ''Scipio'', but " fosse and howgate and divers others of the Scipio her company and also the sayd Thomas Ewens the master of her were by Portugeses taken from aboard the Scipio and put aboard other Portugese shipps to come in them back for Lisbon and Portugeses put in their stead to come for Lisbon in the Scipio, which hee saith hee beleeveth the Portugeses did only for the better securing their goods that if the English in their service had any designe to goe away with their shipps and the goods laden aboard them they might thereby be prevented for that after the Scipio came to Lisbon the Portugeses suffered the ''Scipio'' her company to returne aboard her".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref> Pinshurst concluded by saying "hee never heard that any of the companyes of the other English shipps that went the sayd Brazeele voyage in Company of the ''Scipio'' had any encrease of pay".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77v]]</ref>
+To persuade the mariners of the ''Scipio'' to agree to the new voyage from Lisbon to Brazil, Thomas Ewens "the better to perswade the shipps company to goe for Brazeele freely offer to advance the wages of the mariners of the sayd shipp and to add to the same five shillings in the pound per month for every of their wages over and above the wages that they were to receive by his agreement made with them in England". According to William Marriot this did the trick and the mariners acepted the terms and the voyage. William Marriot stated that he himself returned from Brazil to Lisbon after the voyage oin the ''Scipio'', but "Fosse and Howgate and divers others of the ''Scipio'' her company and also the sayd Thomas Ewens the master of her were by Portugeses taken from aboard the ''Scipio'' and put aboard other Portugese shipps to come in them back for Lisbon and Portugeses put in their stead to come for Lisbon in the ''Scipio'', which hee saith hee beleeveth the Portugeses did only for the better securing their goods that if the English in their service had any designe to goe away with their shipps and the goods laden aboard them they might thereby be prevented for that after the Scipio came to Lisbon the Portugeses suffered the ''Scipio'' her company to returne aboard her".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref> Pinshurst concluded by saying "hee never heard that any of the companyes of the other English shipps that went the sayd Brazeele voyage in Company of the ''Scipio'' had any encrease of pay".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77v]]</ref>
 ==Comment on sources==

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 |Death year=1686
 |Probate date=June 10, 1686
 |Deposition start page(s)=HCA 13/73 f.76v Annotate,
 |Deposition date(s)=Mar 4 1659
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 Thirty-five year old Thomas Pinshurst deposed on March 4th 1659 in the High Court of Admiralty. He was examined in the case of "humfrey ffosse John Tucker and Charles Howgate late mariners of the shipp the ''Scipio'' against Thomas Ewen the Captaine thereof".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.76v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.76v]]</ref>
-Thomas Pinshurst stated that he was carpenter's mate aboard the ship the ''Scipio'' (Master: Thomas Ewen) for much of the period between 1648 and 1651. In 1648 and early 1649 the ''Scipio'' had been bound from the port of London on a voyage to the Mediterranean and then back to London. At the time of being hired by Thomas Ewen, Pinshurst claimed that he had no design to take the ship to Brazil or the West Indies.<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.76v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.76v]]</ref>
+Thomas Pinshurst stated that he was carpenter's mate aboard the ship the ''Scipio'' (Master: Thomas Ewen) for much of the period between 1648 and 1651. In 1648 and early 1649 the ''Scipio'' had been bound from the port of London on a voyage to the Mediterranean and then back to London. At the time of being hired by Thomas Ewen, Pinshurst claimed that he had no design to take the ship to Brazil or the West Indies.<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.76v Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.76v]]</ref> The ''Scipio'' sailed from London and discharged her outward lading in Genoa. She also went to Alicante, where she reladed and sailed to Lisbon, where she discharged her second lading.
 The ''Scipio'' sailed from London and discharged her outward lading in Genoa. She also went to Alicante, where she reladed and sailed to Lisbon, where she discharged her second lading.
 At Lisbon "hee this deponent was paid off and satisfied his wages then due which was eight moneths pay, and hee beleeveth the sayd fosse Tucker and Howgate and other the Mariners who served in her were there alsoe paid eight months pay". However, when at Lisbon, Thomas Ewen then told his company that he intended a new voyage to be made from Lisbon to Brazil, "which voyage the Company or the greatest part of them did dislike in soe much that the Master Thomas Ewen having sent some goods to the shipps side to be taken aboard her in order to proceede on the sayd voyage for Brazeele the sayd Humfrey Fosse the boatswaine an severall others of the sayd shipps company did refuse to take the sayd goods aboard soe that the boates that brought them were fayne to depart with them from the shipps side".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref>

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+|Mariner occupation=Carpenter's mate
 |Training=Not apprentice
 |Citizen=Unknown
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 |Has opening text=Thomas Pinshurst
 |Has signoff text=Thomas Pinshurst
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 The ''Scipio'' sailed from London and discharged her outward lading in Genoa. She also went to Alicante, where she reladed and sailed to Lisbon, where she discharged her second lading.
-At Lisbon " hee this deponent was paid off and satisfied his wages then due which was eight moneths pay, and hee beleeveth the sayd fosse Tucker and Howgate and other the Mariners who served in her were there alsoe paid eight months pay". However, when at Lisbon, Thomas Ewen then told his company that he intended a new voyage to be made from Lisbon to Brazil, "which voyage the Company or the greatest part of them did dislike in soe much that the Master Thomas Ewen having sent some goods to the shipps side to be taken aboard her in order to proceede on the sayd voyage for Brazeele the sayd Humfrey Fosse the boatswaine an severall others of the sayd shipps company did refuse to take the sayd goods aboard soe that the boates that brought them were fayne to depart with them from the shipps side".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref>
+At Lisbon "hee this deponent was paid off and satisfied his wages then due which was eight moneths pay, and hee beleeveth the sayd fosse Tucker and Howgate and other the Mariners who served in her were there alsoe paid eight months pay". However, when at Lisbon, Thomas Ewen then told his company that he intended a new voyage to be made from Lisbon to Brazil, "which voyage the Company or the greatest part of them did dislike in soe much that the Master Thomas Ewen having sent some goods to the shipps side to be taken aboard her in order to proceede on the sayd voyage for Brazeele the sayd Humfrey Fosse the boatswaine an severall others of the sayd shipps company did refuse to take the sayd goods aboard soe that the boates that brought them were fayne to depart with them from the shipps side".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref>
 To persuade the mariners of the ''Scipio'' to agree to the new voyage from Lisbon to Brazil, Thomas Ewens "the better to perswade the shipps Company to goe for Brazeele freely offer to advance the wages of the Mariners of the sayd shipp and to add to the same five shillings in the pound per month for every of their wages over and above the wages that they were to receive by his agreement made with them in England". According to William Marriot this did the trick and the mariners acepted the terms and the voyage. William Marriot stated that he himself returned from Brazil to Lisbon after the voyage oin the ''Scipio'', but " fosse and howgate and divers others of the Scipio her company and also the sayd Thomas Ewens the Master of her were by Portugeses taken from aboard the Scipio and put aboard other Portugese shipps to come in them back for Lisbon and Portugeses put in their stead to come for Lisbon in the Scipio, which hee saith hee beleeveth the Portugeses did only for the better securing their goods that if the English in their service had any designe to goe away with their shipps and the goods laden aboard them they might thereby be prevented for that after the Scipio came to Lisbon the Portugeses suffered the ''Scipio'' her company to returne aboard her".<ref>[[HCA 13/73 f.77r Annotate|HCA 13/73 f.77r]]</ref> Pinshurst concluded by saying "hee never heard that any of the companyes of the other English shipps that went the sayd Brazeele voyage in Company