PhD Forum briefing note: Material culture and language - Revision history

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 Forum members are asked to think how HCA materials might assist them directly in their studies, and more generally how they might assist scholars in exploring issues related to these topics.
-The online session, which will take place on XXXX, will be facilitated by XXXXX. The role of the facilitator is to structure the session, and to pose a series of questions to forum members. All participating members are encouraged to speak, and at the end of the forum the facilitator will ask each member to make some summary remarks.
+The online session, which will take place on XXXX, will be facilitated by Dr Liam Haydon and Laura Seymour. The role of the facilitator is to structure the session, and to pose a series of questions to forum members. All participating members are encouraged to speak, and at the end of the forum the facilitator will ask each member to make some summary remarks.
 Notes will be taken of the meeting and posted to the PhD Forum page after the session. Forum members are encouraged to expand and and correct these notes as they see fit.

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 ===The questions: Material culture===
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 ===The questions: Language===
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 ==Working definition of material culture and language for this forum discussion==
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 ==Literacy==
 Some preliminary analysis has been done of a subset of the complete HCA 13/71 deposition data, examining signatures and markes used to approve depositions as recorded by the High Court of Admiralty clerks or proctors.

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 ==Introduction==

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 Examples: XXXX
-There is considerable difficulty in determining the actual language skills of merchants and mariners.  For example, the English merchant Sir George Oxenden was praised by the English East India company early in his career, when based in Surat, western India, for his skill in Indian langueages.  However, it is unspecified as to whether this was Gujarati, Hindustani, or some other Indian language, and there is no corroborating evidence of his verbal or written skills in any of these languages.<ref>[http://XXXXX Electronic link to a digital source]</ref>  A document survives at the British Library written in French and signed by Sir George Oxenden, but it is unclear whether he drafted this document, or whether he put his name to a pre-drafted document.<ref>[http://XXXXX Electronic link to a digital source]</ref>  Oxenden's nephew, Robert Master, was also praised for his adeptness in Indian languages.  Streynsham's father wrote to Sir George Oxenden:
+There is considerable difficulty in determining the actual language skills of merchants and mariners.
 "I heare Robin hath y:e Language well w:ch must helpe some other omissions"<ref>[[MRP: 27th March 1663%2C Letter from Richard Master to Sir GO27th|March 1663, Letter from Richard Master to Sir George Oxenden, BL, Add. MS. XX, XXXX f. 61]]</ref>

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 Almost all documents in HCA 13/71 are in English.  However, boxes of HCA instance papers (HCA 15/, e.g. [[MRP: HCA 15/6 Box One|HCA 15/6 Box One]] (1654-1657) and [[MRP: HCA 15/6 Box Two|HCA 15/6 Box Two]] (1654-1657) contain a number of documents in Dutch, Portuguese, and Spanish. Typically, though not always, an English translation is appended to these documents. Bills of lading usually went untranslated.  However, petitions and letters from non_English mariners were translated and written out by notaries public, scriveners or lawyers, and sub,itted to the High Court of Admiralty.
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+Examples:
 There is considerable difficulty in determining the actual language skills of merchants and mariners.  For example, the English merchant Sir George Oxenden was praised by the English East India company early in his career, when based in Surat, western India, for his skill in Indian langueages.  However, it is unspecified as to whether this was Gujarati, Hindustani, or some other Indian language, and there is no corroborating evidence of his verbal or written skills in any of these languages.<ref>[http://XXXXX Electronic link to a digital source]</ref>  A document survives at the British Library written in French and signed by Sir George Oxenden, but it is unclear whether he drafted this document, or whether he put his name to a pre-drafted document.<ref>[http://XXXXX Electronic link to a digital source]</ref>  Oxenden's nephew, Robert Master, was also praised for his adeptness in Indian languages.  Streynsham's father wrote to Sir George Oxenden:

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 Language skills were highly valued in mid-C17th international commerce.  Finding solid evidence of such language skills is somewhat harder. Neverthless, various depositions in HCA 13/71 make reference to the ability of both merchants and mariners to understand specific languages other than English.
-Almost all documents in HCA 13/71 are in English.  However, boxes of HCA instance papers (HCA XX/XX) from the 1650s contain a number of douments in Dutch, Portuguese, and Spanish. Typically, though not always, an English translation is appended to these documents. Bills of lading usually went untranslated.  However, petitions and letters from non_English mariners were translated and written out by notaries public, scriveners or lawyers, and sub,itted to the High Court of Admiralty.
+Almost all documents in HCA 13/71 are in English.  However, boxes of HCA instance papers (HCA 15/, e.g. [[MRP: HCA 15/6 Box One|HCA 15/6 Box One]] (1654-1657) and [[MRP: HCA 15/6 Box Two|HCA 15/6 Box Two]] (1654-1657) contain a number of documents in Dutch, Portuguese, and Spanish. Typically, though not always, an English translation is appended to these documents. Bills of lading usually went untranslated.  However, petitions and letters from non_English mariners were translated and written out by notaries public, scriveners or lawyers, and sub,itted to the High Court of Admiralty.
 There is considerable difficulty in determining the actual language skills of merchants and mariners.  For example, the English merchant Sir George Oxenden was praised by the English East India company early in his career, when based in Surat, western India, for his skill in Indian langueages.  However, it is unspecified as to whether this was Gujarati, Hindustani, or some other Indian language, and there is no corroborating evidence of his verbal or written skills in any of these languages.<ref>[http://XXXXX Electronic link to a digital source]</ref>  A document survives at the British Library written in French and signed by Sir George Oxenden, but it is unclear whether he drafted this document, or whether he put his name to a pre-drafted document.<ref>[http://XXXXX Electronic link to a digital source]</ref>  Oxenden's nephew, Robert Master, was also praised for his adeptness in Indian languages.  Streynsham's father wrote to Sir George Oxenden: