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	Thomas Tasse, supracargo on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' gave personal answers in the Hugh Court of Admiralty on March 6th 1652. His answers concerned the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', allegedly of Middleburg, whose silver and ship had been seized by the English in the bay of Cadiz. Tasse argued that he concealed bills of lading and the silver for fear that the English captain Captain Peacock would reveal the illegally laden bullion to the Spanish. Tasse claims he was imprisoned and subjected to "other torments" to reaveal the concealed moneys and bills of lading. Tasse yielded and told Peacock that the bills of lading were with the ship's gunner.<ref>IMG_114_04_7265</ref>		Thomas Tasse, supracargo on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' gave personal answers in the Hugh Court of Admiralty on March 6th 1652. His answers concerned the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', allegedly of Middleburg, whose silver and ship had been seized by the English in the bay of Cadiz. Tasse argued that he concealed bills of lading and the silver for fear that the English captain Captain Peacock would reveal the illegally laden bullion to the Spanish. Tasse claims he was imprisoned and subjected to "other torments" to reaveal the concealed moneys and bills of lading. Tasse yielded and told Peacock that the bills of lading were with the ship's gunner.<ref>IMG_114_04_7265</ref>
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		+	'''March 1653'''
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		+	Twenty-four year old Peter Vandewÿer deposed on March 4th 1653 in the High Court of Admiralty. He was examined on the claim of Andrew Pickenotti of silver in the ship the ''Margaret''. Vandewÿer claimed to have known Pickenotti for ten years, first in Antwerp and now in Madrid, where Pickenotti currently resided. He identifies Pickenotti as an Assentista for the period of ten years he had known him, whose factor at Cadiz was John Baptista Montobio. Vandewÿer had also known John Stephano Spinola for six years, with whom Vandewÿer corresponded and dealt in merchandizing whilst Vandewÿer lived both at Antwerp and Middleburg. Vandewÿer identified ffrancisco Marquez Pachero, who was an officer of the King of Spain, who signed licences for the exportation of silver from Spain to Antwerp. A further officer, ffranco Antonio Cla[?ses] also signed Spanish licences for silver. Both Pickenotti and Montobio are described as "Italian borne".<ref>HCA 13/67 unfol. IMG_117_07_1356</ref>

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 '''October 1651'''
-Thomas Tasse, supracargo or factor on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', deposed in the High Court of Admiralty on October 25th 1651. He was examined on the claim of Lovinus ffrancke, Hendricke Vander Geyne, Peter Vander Wyer and John (alt. Jan) Bolart for the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' and for quantities of money and bullion taken from her by the English ship the ''Tyger Frigot''.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3737</ref> Tasse stated that the four above named men were the owners of the ''Golden Eagle''. The first three were described as merchants of Middleburg, and Bolart as a merchant of Antwerp. Tasse knew all four men and had been at their houses. Tasse claimed that the ship had been set out from Middleburg to Saint Malo in France in November 1650. Twenty-sizx year old Tasse was Antwerp born and had lived with Leland Mayon in Saint Malo two and a half years earlier "to learne ffrench and to understand the trade and merchandize of that place."<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3744</ref>
+Thomas Tasse, supracargo or factor on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', deposed in the High Court of Admiralty on October 25th 1651. He was examined on the claim of Lovinus ffrancke, Hendricke Vander Geyne, Peter Vander Wyer and John (alt. Jan) Bolart for the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' and for quantities of money and bullion taken from her by the English ship the ''Tyger Frigot''.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3737</ref> Tasse stated that the four above named men were the owners of the ''Golden Eagle''. The first three were described as merchants of Middleburg, and Bolart as a merchant of Antwerp. Tasse knew all four men and had been at their houses. Tasse claimed that the ship had been set out from Middleburg to Saint Malo in France in November 1650. Twenty-six year old Tasse was Antwerp born and had lived with Leland Mayon in Saint Malo two and a half years earlier "to learne ffrench and to understand the trade and merchandize of that place."<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3744</ref>
-Interestingly, Tasse states that Henricke Vander Geyne and Levinius ffrancke were both natives of Antwerp, though living in Middleburg. He describes Petr Vander Wyer as "borne at Civill in Spaine" and living in the same house with ffrancke and Vander Gyne in Middleburg. He ommits to mention that Vander Weyer had been apprentice to the fourth man, Jan Bolart, though claims that "all of them...were and are by birth subiects of the King of Spaine". Tasse reported himself as Antwerp born and knew all four men from Antwerp, together with their parents and kin. Tasse had a small private adventure of 800 dollars for which he also sought restitution.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3741</ref> Lovinus ffranck is identified as a Middleburg merchant in the March 1657 High Court of Admiralty deposition of a Middelburg mariner named Peter Butt. Butt claims (in contradiction to Thomas Tasse) that ffranck was not a subject of the King of Spain.<ref>[[HCA 13/72 f.2v Annotate|HCA 13/72 f.2v]]</ref>
+Interestingly, Tasse states that Henricke Vander Geyne and Levinus ffrancke were both natives of Antwerp, though living in Middleburg. He describes Petr Vander Wyer as "borne at Civill in Spaine" and living in the same house with ffrancke and Vander Gyne in Middleburg. He omits to mention that Vander Weyer had been apprentice to the fourth man, Jan Bolart, though claims that "all of them...were and are by birth subiects of the King of Spaine". Tasse reported himself as Antwerp born and knew all four men from Antwerp, together with their parents and kin. Tasse had a small private adventure of 800 dollars for which he also sought restitution.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3741</ref> Lovinus ffranck is identified as a Middleburg merchant in the March 1657 High Court of Admiralty deposition of a Middelburg mariner named Peter Butt. Butt claims (in contradiction to Thomas Tasse) that ffranck was not a subject of the King of Spain.<ref>[[HCA 13/72 f.2v Annotate|HCA 13/72 f.2v]]</ref>
 Tasse was employed as factor to get a lading of linen ready at Saint Malo, travelling there in advance of the ship, and took with him from Middleburg letters of credit drawn on the four mens' correspondents in Saint Malo to the amount of 100,000 guilders (£10,000). He had been hired in Antwerp by Jan Bolart, and on accepting travelled to Middleburg to wreceive written instructions. Tasse reported that these instructions were currently in the custody of his father in Antwerp.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3742</ref> These original instructions were supplemented by a further notarised written instruction concerning his last voyage from France to Spain. During the course of the three voyages between France and Spain Tasse sent and received various dispatches and letters of advice concerning his factory. These he sent and received overland (presumably to avoid detection by the Spanish authorities).<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3743</ref>

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 [[File:Brazen Face 16112016.PNG|700px|thumb|left|List of marks of silver laded onto the ships the ''Salvador'', ''Sampson'' and ''Saint George'' at Cadiz in 1652 and seized by ships of the English Commonwealth. Allegedly belonging to Antwerp merchant, Jan Bollart, but possibly belonging to Amsterdam merchants, [[HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1v Annotate|HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1v]]]]
-Pedro Vandewÿer (alt. Peter Vande Wyer) (b. ca. 1627; d. ?). Merchant. Son of Peter Vander Wyer the Elder (b.?; d. bef.1653, and Antwerp merchant who mived to Seville in Spain. His mother, Sarah Smitsartsa, survived her husband's death.
+Pedro Vandewÿer (alt. Peter Vande Wyer) (b. ca. 1627; d. ?). Merchant. Son of Peter Vander Wyer the Elder (b.?; d. bef.1653, and Antwerp merchant, who moved to Seville in Spain. His mother, Sarah Smitsartsa, survived her husband's death.
 Former apprentice and servant of major Antwerp merchant Jan Bollart.
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 '''October 1651'''
-Thomas Tasse, supracargo or factor on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', deposed in the High Court of Admiralty on October 25th 1651. He was examined on the claim of Lovinus ffrancke, Hendricke Vanxder Geyne, Peter Vander Wyer and John (alt. Jan) Bolart for the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' and for quantities of money and bullion taken from her by the English ship the ''Tyger Frigot''.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3737</ref> Tasse stated that the four above named men were the owners of the ''Golden Eagle''. The first three were described as merchants of Middleburg, and Bolart as a merchant of Antwerp. Tasse knew all four men and had been at their houses. Tasse claimed that the ship had been set out from Middleburg to Saint Malo in France in November 1650. Twenty-sizx year old Tasse was Antwerp born and had lived with Leland Mayon in Saint Malo two and a half years earlier "to learne ffrench and to understand the trade and merchandize of that place."<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3744</ref>
+Thomas Tasse, supracargo or factor on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', deposed in the High Court of Admiralty on October 25th 1651. He was examined on the claim of Lovinus ffrancke, Hendricke Vander Geyne, Peter Vander Wyer and John (alt. Jan) Bolart for the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' and for quantities of money and bullion taken from her by the English ship the ''Tyger Frigot''.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3737</ref> Tasse stated that the four above named men were the owners of the ''Golden Eagle''. The first three were described as merchants of Middleburg, and Bolart as a merchant of Antwerp. Tasse knew all four men and had been at their houses. Tasse claimed that the ship had been set out from Middleburg to Saint Malo in France in November 1650. Twenty-sizx year old Tasse was Antwerp born and had lived with Leland Mayon in Saint Malo two and a half years earlier "to learne ffrench and to understand the trade and merchandize of that place."<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3744</ref>
 Tasse was employed as factor to get a lading of linen ready at Saint Malo, travelling there in advance of the ship, and took with him from Middleburg letters of credit drawn on the four mens' correspondents in Saint Malo to the amount of 100,000 guilders (£10,000). He had been hired in Antwerp by Jan Bolart, and on accepting travelled to Middleburg to wreceive written instructions. Tasse reported that these instructions were currently in the custody of his father in Antwerp.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3742</ref> These original instructions were supplemented by a further notarised written instruction concerning his last voyage from France to Spain. During the course of the three voyages between France and Spain Tasse sent and received various dispatches and letters of advice concerning his factory. These he sent and received overland (presumably to avoid detection by the Spanish authorities).<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3743</ref>
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 Tasse reports that a Captain Peacock, commander of the English ship the ''Tyger Frigot'' then seized the ''Golden Eagle'' in the Bay of Bulls on August 17th 1651 (new style) and took possession of the money and bullion.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3739</ref> The ship had intended to return to Roscoe for a second time, and Tasse states that in the absence of new instructions, he woudl have purchased another lading in Roscoe and returned to Cadiz.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3744</ref>
-Interestingly, Tasse states that Henricke Vander Geyne and Levinius ffrancke were both natives of Antwerp, though living in Middleburg. He describes Petr Vander Wyer as "borne at Civill in Spaine" and living in the same house with ffrancke and Vander Gyne in Middleburg. He ommits to mention that Vander Weyer had been apprentice to the fourth man, Jan Bolart, though claims that "all of them...were and are by birth subiects of the King of Spaine". Tasse reported himself as Antwerp born and knew all four men from Antwerp, together with their parents and kin. Tasse had a small private adventure of 800 dollars for which he also sought restitution.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3741</ref>
+The ship the ''Golden Eagle'' had been built at Ostend and purchased by the Middleburg merchants after it had been built, who added a second deck. The master, Dingeman Govertson, Tasse believed to be Dutch and living in Middleburg.
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-The ship the ''Golden Eagle'' had been built at Ostend and puchased by the Middleburg merchants after it had been built, who added a second deck. The master, Dingeman Govertson, Tasse believed to be Dutch and living in Middleburg.
 '''March 1652'''

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 ==Evidence from High Court of Admiralty==
 '''October 1651'''
 Thomas Tasse, supracargo or factor on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', deposed in the High Court of Admiralty on October 25th 1651. He was examined on the claim of Lovinus ffrancke, Hendricke Vanxder Geyne, Peter Vander Wyer and John (alt. Jan) Bolart for the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' and for quantities of money and bullion taken from her by the English ship the ''Tyger Frigot''.<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3737</ref> Tasse stated that the four above named men were the owners of the ''Golden Eagle''. The first three were described as merchants of Middleburg, and Bolart as a merchant of Antwerp. Tasse knew all four men and had been at their houses. Tasse claimed that the ship had been set out from Middleburg to Saint Malo in France in November 1650. Twenty-sizx year old Tasse was Antwerp born and had lived with Leland Mayon in Saint Malo two and a half years earlier "to learne ffrench and to understand the trade and merchandize of that place."<ref>HCA 13/65 unfol. IMG_129_06_3744</ref>

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 [[File:Brazen Face 16112016.PNG|700px|thumb|left|List of marks of silver laded onto the ships the ''Salvador'', ''Sampson'' and ''Saint George'' at Cadiz in 1652 and seized by ships of the English Commonwealth. Allegedly belonging to Antwerp merchant, Jan Bollart, but possibly belonging to Amsterdam merchants, [[HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1v Annotate|HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1v]]]]
-Pedro Vandewÿer (alt. Peter Vande Wyer) (b. ca. 1627; d. ?). Merchant.
+Pedro Vandewÿer (alt. Peter Vande Wyer) (b. ca. 1627; d. ?). Merchant. Son of Peter Vander Wyer the Elder (b.?; d. bef.1653, and Antwerp merchant who mived to Seville in Spain. His mother, Sarah Smitsartsa, survived her husband's death.
 Former apprentice and servant of major Antwerp merchant Jan Bollart.
-Resident in 1653 in Dunkirk in Flanders.
+Resident in 1650 and 1651 in Middleburg. Resident in 1653 in Dunkirk in Flanders.
 Pedro Vandewÿer stated in October 1653 that he was "a native of Sevill in Spania, and nowe an inhabitant of Dunquirke".<ref>[[HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.2v Annotate|HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.2v]]</ref> He referred in the same deposition to his father's house being in Spain, where John Bollart (Peter vander Wyer the younger's former master) had formerly resided for a considerable time.<ref>[[HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1v Annotate|HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1v]]</ref>
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 ==Evidence from High Court of Admiralty==
 '''March 1652'''
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 '''September 1653'''
-Twenty-six year old Pedro Vandewÿer deposed on September 21st 1653 in the High Court of Admiralty. He ws examined on an allegation in the cause of "The claime of John Bollart of Antwerp for his money and plate in the ''Sampson'', ''Salvador'' and ''Saint George''.<ref>[[HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1r Annotate|HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1r]]</ref>
+Twenty-six year old Pedro Vandewÿer deposed on September 21st 1653 in the High Court of Admiralty. He was examined on an allegation in the cause of "The claime of John Bollart of Antwerp for his money and plate in the ''Sampson'', ''Salvador'' and ''Saint George''.<ref>[[HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1r Annotate|HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1r]]</ref>
 The case concerned the seizure of large quantities of silver, together with smaller quantities of other goods, on the three ships the ''Salvador'' and the ''Saint George'' of Hamburg and the ''Sampson'' of Lübeck. The silver, which came from the Spanish West Indies, had been laded at Cadiz by a mixture of factors and merchants of Spain, of Flanders and Brabant, and most probably also of the United Provinces. Hamburg and Lübeck ships were chosen to lend neutrality to valuable shipments in the early months of war between the Dutch and the English.
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 Tasse states that "Hendricke Vander Geyme and Levinus ffrancke were and are natives of and in the towne of Antwerpe in fflanders but saith they are merchants who live in Middleburgh and for all the tyme arlate did and doe still keepe houses and their families there together with the said Peter Vander Weyer who hee saith was borne at Civill in Spaine and liveth in the same house with the said ffrancke and Vander [?Gyme] in Middleburgh And the said John Bollart hee saith liveth in Antwerpe And all of them hee saith were and are by birth subiects of the King of Spaine....the parents of the said John Bollart were allsoe Inhabitants in Antwerpe untill they removed to Sevill where hee was borne"<ref>[HCA 13/65 IMG_102_07_3028]</ref> Allegedly the ship used was built at Ostend and bought new by the claimants.<ref>[HCA 13/65 IMG_102_07_3029]</ref>
-Tasse notes that "Levinus ffrancke Hendricke Vander [?Gayne] and Peter Vander Wyer are ioynt partners together in trade in this present voyage and designe but the said John Bollart doeth trade in this present voyage by himselfe and without any copartnershippe with the rest save only as hee is owner of a quarter part of the said ship and saith the said Bollart hath alsoe a fourth part of the moneyes and bulion which are now claymed [?XXXX] aboard her at the time of the sizure thereof and the other three parts of the said ship and goods hee saith doe th ioyntly belong unto the said three owners thereof named in the beginning of this deposition"<ref>[HCA 13/65 IMG_102_07_3030]</ref>
+Tasse notes that "Levinus ffrancke Hendricke Vander [?Gayne] and Peter Vander Wyer are ioynt partners together in trade in this present voyage and designe but the said John Bollart doeth trade in this present voyage by himselfe and without any copartnershippe with the rest save only as hee is owner of a quarter part of the said ship and saith the said Bollart hath alsoe a fourth part of the moneyes and bullion which are now claymed [?XXXX] aboard her at the time of the seizure thereof and the other three parts of the said ship and goods hee saith doeth ioyntly belong unto the said three owners thereof named in the beginning of this deposition"<ref>[HCA 13/65 IMG_102_07_3030]</ref>
 '''December 1651'''

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 '''March 1652'''
-Thomas Tasse, supracargo on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' gave personal answers in the Hugh Court of Admiralty on March 6th 1652. His answers concerned the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', allegedly of Middleburg, whose silver and ship had been seized by the English in the bay of Cadiz. Tasse argued that he concealed bills of lading and the silver for fear that the English captain Captain Peacock would reveal the illegally laden bullion to the Spanish. Tasse claims he was imprisoned and  subjected to "other torments"
+Thomas Tasse, supracargo on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' gave personal answers in the Hugh Court of Admiralty on March 6th 1652. His answers concerned the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', allegedly of Middleburg, whose silver and ship had been seized by the English in the bay of Cadiz. Tasse argued that he concealed bills of lading and the silver for fear that the English captain Captain Peacock would reveal the illegally laden bullion to the Spanish. Tasse claims he was imprisoned and  subjected to "other torments" to reaveal the concealed moneys and bills of lading. Tasse yielded and told Peacock that the bills of lading were with the ship's gunner.<ref>IMG_114_04_7265</ref>
- to reaveal the concealed moneys and bills of lading. Tasse yielded and told Peacock that the bills of lading were with the ship's gunner.<ref>IMG_114_04_7265</ref>
 '''September 1653'''

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	==Evidence from High Court of Admiralty==		==Evidence from High Court of Admiralty==
		+	'''March 1652'''
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		+	Thomas Tasse, supracargo on the ship the ''Golden Eagle'' gave personal answers in the Hugh Court of Admiralty on March 6th 1652. His answers concerned the ship the ''Golden Eagle'', allegedly of Middleburg, whose silver and ship had been seized by the English in the bay of Cadiz. Tasse argued that he concealed bills of lading and the silver for fear that the English captain Captain Peacock would reveal the illegally laden bullion to the Spanish. Tasse claims he was imprisoned and subjected to "other torments"
		+	to reaveal the concealed moneys and bills of lading. Tasse yielded and told Peacock that the bills of lading were with the ship's gunner.<ref>IMG_114_04_7265</ref>
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	'''September 1653'''		'''September 1653'''

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 |Birth year=1627
 |First deposition age=26
-|Deposition start page(s)=HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1r Annotat, HCA 13/69 Silver 13 f.13r Annotate, HCA 13/68 f.178r Annotate,
+|Deposition start page(s)=HCA 13/69 Silver 14 f.1r Annotate, HCA 13/69 Silver 13 f.13r Annotate, HCA 13/68 f.178r Annotate,
 |Deposition date(s)=Sep 21 1653, Nov 4 1653, Nov 4 1653
 |Has infobox completed=Yes

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 The case concerned the seizure of large quantities of silver, together with smaller quantities of other goods, on the three ships the ''Salvador'' and the ''Saint George'' of Hamburg and the ''Sampson'' of Lübeck. The silver, which came from the Spanish West Indies, had been laded at Cadiz by a mixture of factors and merchants of Spain, of Flanders and Brabant, and most probably also of the United Provinces. Hamburg and Lübeck ships were chosen to lend neutrality to valuable shipments in the early months of war between the Dutch and the English.
-To learn more about this complex case, which spanned Cadiz, Antwrp, Hamburg, London and Rouen, and became highly politicised between Spain, England and the free sstate of Hamburg, follow [[Tools: Three Silver Ships|this link]].
+To learn more about this complex case, which spanned Cadiz, Antwerp, Hamburg, London and Rouen, and became highly politicised between Spain, England and the free sstate of Hamburg, follow [[Tools: Three Silver Ships|this link]].
 '''November 1653'''