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|Transcription=Spaine to amsterdam and there, finishing there severall voyages within the nine yeares last.
this deponent hath seene the said Christian Cloppenburgh deliver
at Amsterdam to severall persons there residing, namely the first time to
a merchant dwelling on the keisers gracht, the second time to one
Arian Poulsen dwelling in the (?Strewet) market, and
the last time which was about two yeares since to one vanderstraten
in the heeresgracht, but for the time(being soe longe since) persons or quantitie hee
saith hee doth not otherwise remember then as aforesaid. And further hee cannot
answer saving his foregoing deposition.

To the 22 hee hath not deposed, namely not of any confession made
by the said Christian Cloppengburgh that his said shipp belonged to Amsterdam.

To the 23th hee saith hee hath seene the shipp the Mercurius interrate at
Cadiz about 6 yeares since, and saith she was a broadsterned shipp having
three or four and twenty gunnes, holland built at least in appearance, and
of about 400 tonnes burthen, and since that time hee hath not seene her
saving about 4 yeares since at which time hee sawe her at Amsterdam
and never sawe the Golden Sunn being at Ostend the time aforesaid, whic
hee saith was then of the burthen (in his estimacion) of five hundred tonnes
and a broadsterned shipp alsoe of a holland mould,
and otherwise hee cannot answer saving as aforesaid.

To the24 hee hath not soe deposed, but at amsterdam it was commonly and
generally said and reputed that shee belonged to that citie, and saving
spoken of a common report and fame in such a citie hee saith hee cannot depose
knowingly to the question of what person, or in what house or language
hee heard it for (as hee saith) if hee heard it only of some particular
person or in some distinct house it could not in his iudgement but the common
forme and voice of the people as he saith it was, and therefore hee therein referreth
himselfe to his foregoing deposition.

To the 25th hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition.

To the 27th hee hath not soe deposed.

To the 28th hee hath not soe deposed.

To the 29th hee saith that severall ships of severall (Prince?), states
in amitie together doe often times meete and trade at a port of
another state or Prince in amitied with them and lade there, and.

To the 30th negatively saving hee came not from Cadiz in any of
the shipps interrate or in their company.

To the 31 and 32th hee hath not soe deposed.

To the 33 hee saith that the said discourse betwixt the mariners of the Salvador and this
deponent at the bell at [LH MARGIN]
Woolwich, happened in an
upper roome or chamber of
the said house, and was spoken
in dutch in the afternoone
and that one of the mariners
was named (?Cornelius), and
was trumpeter of the said
shipp and otherwise hee
remembreth not saving his
foregoing deposition.
Abraham Jansen [SIGNATURE]

To the 36th hee answereth and saith that if it were in his power hee
would adjudge and condemn for a prize the severall shipps the Sampson
the Salvador and st George interrate with their severall ladings
because hee verily beleeveth them to belonge to hollanders and to be as
good prize to this state as any that ever they tooke.

To the 37th hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition, and otherwise
negatively.

To the 38th negatively for his part, saving there was never any fallings
out betwixt this deponent and the said Xhristian Cloppenburgh nor did
this deponent ever demand any wages of him, having never served in his
Shipp.

To the 39th hee saith hee is only a lodger at the place aforesaid of his (?predite) abode
but is not taxed to the Commonwealth, and is a sailmaker by trade.
Abraham Jansen [SIGNATURE RHS]
Reported before Drs Clarke and Godolphin [LHS SIDE]

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HCA 13/70 f.730r Annotate

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|Transcription=To the fifth Interrogatie hee saith hee is not nor was any of the company of the
Salvador interrate, and soe all the rest of this interrogatorie is satisfied.
To the 2 negatively, saying hee was not present at the lading of the silver in question.
To the 3 hee cannot answer not being present as aforesaid, but hath heard that the said shipp was wholly laden at Cadiz.
To the fourth hee saith that hee hath knowne the Matthew Fransen aforesaid
for these twenty yeares last past, and knoweth him to be a part owner
of the said shipp for the reasons aforesaid, and because hee hath often seen
and been privie to the accompt made up and given by the said Christian
Cloppenburgh to the said Matthew Fransen as a part owner for the freight, proffite and expenses
of the said shipp, this deponent as aforesaid living with the said Fransen
and soe cumming to take notice of and to be acquainted with the premisses
and otherwise hee referreth himselfe to his foregoeing deposition.

To the 5th hee saith hee knoweth not any other of the owners of the said
shipp than the said Matthew Fransen, who hee saith is of a middle stature
well bearded, pale coloured in the face and of about 40 yeares of age, and
this deponent sawe him last at Amsterdam at church about 14 monthes since
and when this deponent last spake with him, hee spake dutch to this deponent
who spake dutch to him, being as hee beleeveyh the onlhy language that the
said Fransen can speke of this deponent albeit hee wrought three yeares
with him at the trade of saile making, never heard him speake any other
language but dutch, but the effect of their last communication hee saith monthes since, Spanish having often sailed in Spanish
hee remembreth not.
To the 6th hee saith that this exminate can speake English being his
mother tongue, lowe dutch, having lived 26 and 27 yeares in Amsterdam
ended about 14 monthes since and can
speake a little French.
To the 7th hee saith hee can write legibly and reade both written (?and} and
printed.
To the 8th hee saith he cnoweth the purser of the Salvador by sight
and that the said purser was in company of those of the companie of the said
shipp when this deponent met and dranke and discoursed with them at
Woolwich as hee hath predeposed, which meeetin was casuall referring
himselfe to his foregoing deposition, and saith the said purser after some tyme departed
their company, and on his going, hailed and bade his fellowes have a care of their tongues
and what they said, saying [LH MARGIN]
to them, you know in
what a case wee have bin in
already, or that effect,
Abraham Jansen [SIGNATURE]
To the 12th hee hath not soe deposed.
To the 13th negatively.
To the 14th and 15th hee saith hee was not of the company of any of the Shipps of this
Commonwealth that seized the said shipp and her lading, and otherwise
negatively.
T0 the 16th negatively.
To the 17th hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition.
To the 18th hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition where he hath
satisfied the same.
To the 19th hee saith hee dwelt constantly in Amsterdam (saving his absence
now and then in seafaring voyage) for 26 yeares or thereabouts, till about
14 monthes since at which time hee returned thence with his wife and went
and tooke a chamber in Ostend, and there continued only six or seven weekes
and thence came for England and hath ever since dwelt in St Catherines
lane neere the Tower of London the place of his present residence.
To the 20th hee saith that hee never sailed in the said shipp the Salamander
nor was ever in her at Cadiz.
To the 21th hee saith that upon the said 'shipp the Salamander her returne from Spaine

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|Transcription=and others to stay on board for endeavour the preservation of her and
if they could preserve her to carry her to the first first port they could
make or to that effect in obedience to which command the sayd '''Gough'''
as Commander and this deponent and the sayd 45 men of the ''Lyon's'' company
did staye on board though with great hazard of their lives and with
continuall labour of two hand pumps continually goeing and divers
bayling water continually with bucketts ad belye of a spritsayle
they had of the ''Lyon'' which they made serve for a foresayle for the shipp
Interrogate he at length brought her to Briegsham Key in Tourbay
which was the first port they could make the winde blowing hard to the
Southwards shere after she was arrived her leakes were stopped.
And this deponent there left her being ordered by the vice Admiral
to returne to his ship ''Lyon'' which hee accordingly did And therefore
cannot further answere to this Interrogatorrie.
To the second Interrogatorie he there was no living thing aboard the sayd
shipp when shee was soe found driving as aforesayd save a dogg
and catts and suchlike vermin and saith shee had then aboard for a and
some bread which was all spoiled with wett received as touching upon
condicion the vessel itselfe was then in hee hath answered to it before
for much as hee can And further hee cannot answere/
To the third hee saith hee knoweth not the name of the shipp Interrogate nor
who had bin Master of her nor whence she came, but conceiveth by her
lading shee came from Greenland, nor knoweth hee whether shee was
bound And further to this interrogatorie he cannot answere/
To the 4th hee saith that when the shipps the ''Lyon'' was a great distance
off there were fower or five shipps neere the shipp interrogate but
made away from her as the ''Lyon'' drewe neerer but whether they were
of the Company of the sayd shipp hee knoweth not but believeth
rather they were some that had bin in fight with her and had taken
away her men and were plundering of her and seeing the Lyon come
made away And further hee cannot to this Interrogatorie depose
saving hee saith hee heard his contest '''John Gough''' who went in the
shipp Interrogate to dartmouth and there delivered her ladeing saye and
affirme that they were at sea in Company of the shipp Interrogate
before she was found driveing in the manner aforesayd and that
they knew shee did belong to Frenchmen./
To the 5th Interrogatorie hee saith the shipp Interrogate is as this deponent judges
by her mould and shape flemish built, and saith there is a picture on her
shewne but what the same is he remembreth not. And saith [??? GUTTER]
knoweth of any writing whatsoever found aboard her and
further to this Interrogatorie hee cannot answere./
To the last hee saith hee believeth the shipp Interrogate had bin
in fight with some other ship or shipps not longe before shee was found

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|Transcription=To the second hee referreth himselfe to his foregoing deposition
To the third hee saith hee knoweth nothing thereof, not being present at the
buyeing of or payeing for the said sugars in question:
To the fourth hee saith hee never sawe the persons interrate so far as hee knoweth.
To the fifth negatively
To the sixth hee referrreth to his foregoing deposition, and saith the interrate
"'Antonio Rodrigues de Morais"' is a married man and keepeth house
and family at Roane, and is a merchant and factor freely and without
any servitude acting for himselfe and his friends that are forraigners.
To the 7th hee referreth to his foregoing deposition And further otherwise
then negatively cannot depose.
To the 8th hee saith that for the reasons redeposed hee is fully
assured in Conscience that the sugarrs interrate doe wholely and
solely belong to the producents predeposed and to noe other person
or persons whatsoever.
To the 9th hee saith hee knoweth nothing thereof :
To the 10th: negatively, And further knoweth not:
To the 11th: hee saith hee knoweth nothing thereof.
P. Scherembach [SIGNATURE]
Reported before "'Doctor Godolphin"'.

'''3us./'''
The same day Examined upon the said Allegation:-/:-
'''Manoel Doreis''' Native of and resident in the
Citie of Lisbone aged 29. yeares or thereabouts a
Wittnesse sworne and examined saith and deposeth
as followeth videlicet

To the first article of the said Allegation hee saith and deposeth that hee doth
not personally knowe the arlate "'Manoel"' and "'Francis Derrickson"' but by
his familliar acquaintance with their factor and Correspondents at Lisbone in
Portugall well knoweth that persons soe named have paid and held Correspondence
in Commerce and Merchandizing at Lisbone for about three yeares last past
of this deponents knowledge, during which time they have had and have their
Correspondents and Agents there as hereafter expressed. And otherwise
saving his subsequent deposition to which hee referreth hee cannot depose:

To the second hee sath that one "'Manuel Rodrigues"' (?JXXXX) a merchant
and factor at Lisbone and Correspondent of the said producents well knoweth this deponent did in
in the Month of June or July in the month of June or July in the yeare of 1654 last past lade aboard
the shipp called the "Nightingale" arlate at or neare foure Chests of sugar to be
transported in the said shipp to Roane in France which hee, this deponent
believeth for that hee saw the same carried in by barque aboard the said shipp by the said (?????) [GUTTER]
direction, but how the same were marked or for whose accompt they (??) [GUTTER]
hee saith hee knoweth not. And further saith that at or about the
time predeposed one "'Disente de Basto"' a Factor and Merchant present resident
at Lisbone did alsoe cause to bee laden aboard the said ship to be
transported as aforesaid and marked as in the (?Maengent) of the goods merchandized#

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